Just the casual reporting of a friend who is currently (temporarily) residing in the Juneau area.

(Although I am quite familiar with the *extensive* deforestation of our (formerly)largest National Forest, the Tongass...)

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Juneau

I really enjoyed my visits to Juneau. Great fishing.

Indeed; apparently, even the clearcutters respect the fact that many others depend on the fisheries' remaining relatively intact...

'Good' area for all manner of 'resource extraction', eh? While it lasts...

Thousands of acres...

Error correction, or quibble of sources. I earlier reported one source indicating 5-6% of original Old Growth Redwood remaining. Other sources indicate less:


Redwood National and State Parks

Redwood National Park and State Parks, Area History -- Logging

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The 60,000 acre Headwaters Forest owned by Pacific Lumber Company of Scotia, California is the largest unprotected Redwood forest remaining on Earth. Between the 8000 acres of old-growth Redwoods in the Headwaters Forest and other patches of old-growth in an additional 140,000 acres owned in the region, Pacific Lumber Company now controls about 75% of all the old-growth Redwood remaining in private hands. Link

90% logged off by the 60's.

6% since then. (100,000 + acres)

Originally: 2 million acres.

Now: +/- 4% of that is left: 85,000 acres

3% preserved in public lands.
1% in private hands.
75% of that 1% in Maxxam hands.

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'Good' area for all manner of 'resource extraction', eh? While it lasts...

Damn right... except you can't drive there.
Just checked my customer list.

Silver Bay Logging
Kake Tribal Logging
SE Alaska Oil Drilling
Gildersleeve Logging
NC Machinery

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Originally posted by LOGANTHOR:

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'Good' area for all manner of 'resource extraction', eh? While it lasts...

Damn right... except you can't drive there.
Just checked my customer list.

Silver Bay Logging
Kake Tribal Logging
SE Alaska Oil Drilling
Gildersleeve Logging
NC Machinery

Business is business, and business must grow!

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Ren, thanks for your links to some content. I would appreciate the opportunity to read a full discussion of these issues, ... perhaps I can find it at one of your links?

Kate

Thanks for showing us from whence the stench which is choking you arises, Logan...

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Thanks for showing us from whence the stench which is choking you arises

Your welcome. Anything else I can do for you?

Kate,

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would appreciate the opportunity to read a full discussion of these issues, ... perhaps I can find it at one of your links?

Good luck. I have already proclaimed my Bias.
You could start with this

Come to terms with what we use timber for.

I did a quickie calculation by decade frome here
1996 - 2005 Average 5.8 million acres/yr
1960 - 1969 Average 4.6 million acres/yr

this is roughly 3% of America's landmass

Although I am dubious about the governments stats because I seem to remember lots of fires with the 1998 El Nino year.

NENP, I like your use of some statistics to make your case. But I have hinted that whenever we talk about wildfires that we need to talk about Alaska. Because when they talk about total acres burnt they are including Alaskan fires that include a section that is "Limited Protection" (Allowed to burn) that for 2005 was 3,578,045 acres.

So what does this mean?

That we are measuring wildfires with a bias toward what happens in Alaska.

From Rogue Pundit, Fire Danger in Oregon

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The latest national fire outlook by federal land management agencies predicts increasing fire danger across the western U.S., with the exception of Alaska, where the potential is below-normal due to persistent showers this spring and summer.

And Alaska has only had 219,567.5 acres burnt so far this year.

Isn't all of this discussion meaningless anyhow??

According to Al Gore....

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Humanity is sitting on a ticking time bomb. If the vast majority of the world's scientists are right, we have just ten years to avert a major catastrophe that could send our entire planet into a tail-spin of epic destruction involving extreme weather, floods, droughts, epidemics and killer heat waves beyond anything we have ever experienced.

An Inconvenient Truth

Better log 'em while we can!!

(Of course I'm being facetious)