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I have just heard news that LeProletariat has passed away. He was well known in the chatroom to be a stirrer, but a progressive stirrer at that.



I am sure going to miss that son of a bitch.

Goodbye old friend.


"HEY!...TEACHER!...LEAVE THOSE KIDS ALONE!" Pink Floyd
 
Posts: 191 | Location: the land down under | Registered: 02 September 2004Report This Post
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I miss you LePro. You were the most sensible tho crusty old fart ever.

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This is his website.

http://www.leproletariat.com/index.html


"HEY!...TEACHER!...LEAVE THOSE KIDS ALONE!" Pink Floyd
 
Posts: 191 | Location: the land down under | Registered: 02 September 2004Report This Post
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Yeah, he was a fine man and a good internet buddy. I have just now removed him from my Instant messenger buddy list. That is sad.

Does anyone know what he died of?
 
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In the Arms of the Angels
Far Away from Here
In the Arms of the Angels
May you find some comfort there



Lep was found by his best friend, Dan. He apparently had a heart attack.


I will miss my Goat Cheese buddy..
 
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LeProletariat ... Jack Demson ... in the two years I chatted with him almost daily, I always looked forward to Jack comin in chat and I always felt a pang when he left promptly at 9 p.m. to listen to his old time radio shows. Jack the GREEK ... he never let us forget it! And then there was his daily homage to his wonderful Mac and his barbs against the use of PC's. Jack ... with his acerbic wit, sardonic humor, unexpected retorts ... yet he was always appropriate and polite.

Jack appeared to care very deeply and wore his heart on his sleeve I thought rather often. Never having had children, he seemed to care so much for our troops, giving the "Dead-O-Meter" from Iraq almost daily. And then there were the days he worked as a substitute teacher and there was joy in his voice when he spoke of his little charges. He wanted so much to be hired full-time but never attained his dream.

Jack ... talkin about his old motorcycle days he enjoyed so much, his almost daily bicycle rides through Seattle and then drivin his new convertible he purchased recently. I would envision him flyin down the road, his hair blowin in the wind.

He loved his cats and we in the chatroom shared his pain when one of his favorites died within the last year.

And then there was the "waitin for the bread machine to be delivered" day quite recently when he was having his hilarious temper tantrums and he kept runnin to the window lookin for the obviously delinquent UPS driver. I pictured a newspaper article the next day where it was noted "UPS delivery person says, 'I dont know what happened. Mr Demson just punched me after he grabbed the package.'" He finally ate the bread he made about 2 a.m. the next morning.

Jack always provided me with lots of laughs in chat. He also was politically astute and very smart. Jack had a nice voice. I talked with him on the phone for hours at a time where his intelligence and acumen came through and it was always very edifying to discuss with him our observations and opinions about the state of the world. I never met him in person and I regret that I will never have the chance to do so now.

Jack .. you made a difference in the lives of many and as for myself, I am so glad I had you in my life, if but for a brief while. Jack .. you were indeed a treasure to me and I will never ever forget you. As I've been crying for days now since I heard you are no longer with us, it seems I loved you, Jack.

I remember Jack sayin this:

If you understand, the world is as it is.
If you don't understand, the world is as it is.

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I've been crying since I read this thread.

I am sad to see him go. I am sad I will no longer have the chance to exchange words with him.

It's odd how some people touch us deeper than we realize. LeProletariat was one of those people. I will miss him and I will never forget him.

I don't know what else I can say.


Because people with no hopes are easy to control ~ The Neverending Story
 
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AnninOly,
This is Dan. Jack's best friend. I messed up the handle thing, I guess, using my girlfriend's name.
I wanted to thank you for the choice of words. That's from one of my favorite albums, Music from City of Angels. I knowI urged Jack to see that movie, and it's precursor , Wim Wenders' Wings of Desire. If you've seen the movie, you might know or sense why I feel that way. I'm the guy who found him, but I still can't believe he's gone, that I won't be able to have coffee with him anymore. So he will haunt me...in a good way. We buried Jack by a road in the cemetery where I intend to take a thermos of my favorite...Caffe Breve.., park my Honda CR-V, and sit there and have a long coffee with him. We were both in the middle of "A People's History of the United States", by Howard Zinn, so I may sit there and read the rest to him.
We were best friends since gradeschool, ended up in the same neighborhood both physically and psychically. So I'd be perusing a movie at our favorite movie rental place, Rain City in Ballard, and then I'd hear," Who's driving that ugly Honda CR-V out front!!" as he walked in...he loved Honda's too, but he'd bought a SAAB convertible last year, and I knew who it was that walked in.
I'm so glad he had more friends ..cyber friends.. than I imagined. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Dan


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In the Arms of the Angels
Far Away from Here
In the Arms of the Angels
May you find some comfort there



Lep was found by his best friend, Dan. He apparently had a heart attack.


I will miss my Goat Cheese buddy..


Dan
 
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This is Dan, despite my handle there.., I'm Jack's best friend, and this is what I read at his funeral, what I wrote that morning:

Jack and I rode identical Schwinn Varsity’s bicycles together in Yakima when we were twelve. We rode bicycles together when we were 55. He played trumpet. I played trumpet. I liked Rafael Mendez, Jack loved Al Hirt. We were both pretty good, I thought. Although, once we got into Jr. High, we both perhaps had changing interests, so we occupied, as I remember, the LAST chairs in the Wilson ninth grade trumpet section. We had the same interests in most things, not all. Growing up in the sixties, we were both what you might call anti establishment. We’d stay over night at each other’s homes, stay up kinda late and watch Johnny Carson, and talk early teen stuff, I suppose. We also watched the old TV show Route 66, and I think, while watching it, we felt a kinship too, by identifying with Buzz and Todd, the characters. Buzz was played by George Maharis, a Greek actor, and the blond white guy, Todd played by Martin Milner. I recently bought every episode on ebay and shared them with Jack.

Jack was passionate about his beliefs, and he knew so much more about the world, I believe because of his father, who had come here from Greece. I always liked seeing Mr. Demson. He seemed so wise, and kind, and I have been reminded often by Jack, in recent years of our continued friendship, of what you might call the spiritual legacy left by his father; Mr. Demson’s perceptions of the world, and his wisdom in life, which he passed on to all his children. He could see true colors, and Jack strove to do the same. Jack always tried to see what the good road was, and I want to remember that about him.

I remember once Mr. Demson took us boys to Seattle where we stayed in our own room in an old hotel owned by Mr. Demson’s friend, right on Pike Street. Wow. We were on the second or third or more floor, it wasn’t too high. But we’d spit and see how long it would take to land, watch the night life walking by down below us, people going in and out of the bar across the street,..enthralled, enthralled to be out of Yakima. Years later I would think of that when I drove my taxicab by that block.

After 1968, when we graduated, we didn’t see each other for a long time. Perhaps once in 1969. But for the most part, we went different directions, both trying to do what we thought we should. Until in 1985, I believe, I saw him in my neighborhood, Ballard, where once we came when we were kids in my old Mercedes Diesel, and where he had told me his aunt had lived, I think. I was astonished to learn he lived one block from me. But we mostly just said Hi and didn’t visit much. Jack did help me one time, during that time, when I had to pick up my car. But they moved away, bought a house, after which Jack divorced her and moved back to Ballard.
I ran into him in the late 90’s roller-blading around Green Lake maybe more than once. He seemed happy. He almost always seemed happy to be out and doing things.

It was only about 6 to 7 years ago, however, that we, for whatever reason that we started hanging out again, having coffee, bicycling around Ballard, the Burke-Gilman trail, Magnolia, Golden gardens. Talking, talking..it was kind of like we picked up where we left off, kind of like we were in our teens again. He even joined my racket club. He went to an eBay symposium with me, a Comedy club, which he really enjoyed, and lately, we saw our favorite Progressive radio talk show host, Thom Hartmann, and other Air America talk show hosts at Seattle’s Town Hall. Jack rarely missed the war Protest on the corner by Tully’s in Seattle. He and I pretty much own Ballard. He’s remembered in many coffee shops and stores, the video store..just everywhere.

I realized back then the quality of the connection I had left behind so many years before with my friend, Jack. One time in our curious youth, we thought to stare at each other for a long time. I guess it occurred to us to wonder why people who like each other in this life do not ever look long enough at each other.. we were curious that maybe something good could happen.We thought that, Gee nobody really does that. We stared at each other for four hours, and talked about it occasionally as we did. I cannot recreate it for you, but for two 16 year old, it was an experience, for me at least, that I describe best as “HOLY”, and it left a mark in me.

I don’t know if it was that experience that effected the way we related to each other.

We didn’t always agree on things. I was on the fence, even, when 9/11 happened, not sure then what Bush would do. Jack knew. And I ended up clarifying my position, and he helped me do that. In other things, where we disagreed, he had come around to my way of thinking, whether politics or the religions of Macintosh vs IBM. We used to have these lively disagreements about Macs and Pcs. Then one day, Jack told me he’d been reading about the System X on Macs…and got two Macs, and began learning more and more. He showed me so much.He’s my source of knowledge, and I’m going to miss that. He got me on the audio part of AOL instant Messaging, so that when I’m home or visiting mom, I hook it up to the stereo and, mom was amazed,…all of a sudden Jack was in the room.

Anyway, what I take away from this is that Jack and I really had something that the world needs. We had gold. We were two fellows who looked at each other long enough, one time in all of the time of our lives,..long enough for all the baloney to fall away, my baloney, his baloney…to see what we were looking at, what was simple, and right in front of our faces. That spirit was always in us…we allowed each other to roll the pros and cons of this and that around in our respective souls, just nudging each other from time to time….That is the only thing that will allow the world to perpetuate. Taking the time to look. And I’m not embarrassed to say that, on several occasions, I did tell Jack that I loved him.

I found on the internet a Greek saying.

It's not good for all of our wishes to be fulfilled. Through sickness, we recognize the value of health; through evil, the value of good; through hunger, the value of food; through exertion, the value of rest.

I suppose I’m not the only one who might add to this, through the death of a friend, the value of love.


Dan
 
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I am sorry to see you lose a best friend Dan.

Friends like that are lucky to come once in a lifetime.


"HEY!...TEACHER!...LEAVE THOSE KIDS ALONE!" Pink Floyd
 
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I'm shocked by this news.

He was something else... he cracked me up almost everytime I chatted with him.

May he rest in ultimate and absolute peace and may we all remember him for ALL that he was....
 
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Hello..... LePro
We enjoyed barbs and you were quick to point out that I am evil. Come to think of it you pointed that out to most of us at one time or another. You were probably right. I had and have great respect for your commitment, your passion, and regret your pain. I was proud to call you friend. You will be missed

bigguyAZ

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I'll miss ya Lepro. Save me a seat!


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I planted a decorative maple tree among the pines here today. It will always be "the Greek" tahoekevin
 
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My friend.

Jack the Greek


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Oh thanks for that picture. For those of us who never met him personally, I know we all would have liked to put a face to the name someday. Thanks for doing that for us.

Funny how these little chat rooms become so important, huh? People that you know you will most likely never meet in person become quite important to check in with. I wish I could get to Thom's chat room more often, but I do enjoy myself so much and learn so much while I am there...
 
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Thanks Dan for that picture. And Ann, I completely agree. Certain people in the chatroom and here on the forum have become my best friends, without having met them in person. How fortunate we are indeed...

I feel it shows that love (in whatever form it enters the room) exceeds the physical. And that might mean that Jack (LePro) is still with us, maybe even wondering what the fuss is all about Wink
 
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I had been watching this online movie and thinking of LeProletariat: http://TheDashMovie.com/
 
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A common thing LePro would do is call his friends "evil pinko commies". Anyone that believes in democracy was an "evil pinko commie". It always made me laugh when he called one of us that.

He was one of a kind that man.


"HEY!...TEACHER!...LEAVE THOSE KIDS ALONE!" Pink Floyd
 
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FYI everyone. I just did some checking for Jack's site, leproletariat.com .
I will try to have it transferred to my name, and leave things mostly the same while I hopefully do some learning about the design end. But it's paid for through Feb. 2, 2008. And the domain name good til the same date 2010.
Hopefully by then, we can get these Repugnicons out of office, and behind bars if we're extra-blessed.

I'll post this on Thom's site too.

Thanks again everyone.

Dan lePro's friend.


Dan
 
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Pardon my confusion...this IS Thom's site.


Dan
 
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Thanks, Dan


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I knew John "Jack" Demson for 15 years. Anyone interested on hearing what he was like before LeProletariat was created? I am glad he made some friends and got some recognition after all these years.

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Sure KJ, always good to hear about friends.


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