Pastor Liang Yage's wife was forced to abort their baby seven months into her pregnancy. The couple already have one child, a 12-year-old boy. They were told that having another child would contravene China's one-child policy. . .
Liang Yage and his wife Wei Linrong had one child and believed that — like many other couples — they could pay a fine and keep their second baby. Wei was 7 months pregnant when 10 family planning officials visited her at home on April 16....
Liang describes how they told her that she would have to have an abortion, "You don't have any more room for maneuver," he says they told her. "If you don't go [to the hospital], we'll carry you." The couple was then driven to Youjiang district maternity hospital in Baise city. link
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. . the World Health Organization released a report at WHO's Regional Committee for the Western Pacific that said more than 50 million women were estimated to be "missing" in China because of the institutionalized killing and neglect of girls due to Beijing's population control program that limits parents to one child.
Many of the girls were killed while still in the womb – the victims of ultrasound technology that revealed the baby's sex. Others, WHO said, were starved to death after birth, the victims of violence or were not treated when they became ill.
The report's statistics showed that in 1994, 117 boys were born for every 100 girls in China. That is the same ratio today in China – 10 years later. Though baby girls tend to have a higher survival rate than boys, that natural process has been dramatically reversed in China by infanticide, gross neglect, maltreatment and malnutrition of females in a culture that regards boys as more desirable – especially when couples get only one chance at parenthood. . .
WHO documented what can only be described as the biggest single holocaust in human history – and doing it in a surprisingly clinical and low-key fashion. It was characterized in that WorldNetDaily report, for the first time, as "gendercide," a phrase that has been picked up by other organizations and activists around the globe . . GENDERCIDE
Why have we not heard any protests from the neo-militant, liberated-N.O.W. feminists on gendercide?
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GG: The Womens' groups have been arguing this point for years. Thank all your free trade. Thank Walmart for putting "the China Price" the standard of the world. This is as "anti choice" as it is Anti Abortion.
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Originally posted by James Leo: GG: The Womens' groups have been arguing this point for years. Thank all your free trade. Thank Walmart for putting "the China Price" the standard of the world. This is as "anti choice" as it is Anti Abortion.
GG: You do realize that the government of the U.S. Mariana Islands allows forced abortions by employers?? A Republican Congressional delegation to the islands suggested there be no change in this policy.
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Democracy Now! http://www.democracynow.org As the Bush Administration Withdraws Funds to the UN Population Fund Claiming It Funds Forced Abortion in China, a Look at Coercive Welfare Laws, Forced Sterilization and Forced Foster Care Here in the US
In a move that inspired shock and anger around the world, the Bush administration announced Monday it is withdrawing $34 million from the United Nations Population Fund.
The Fund provides family planning and reproductive health services in 142 countries. According to UNFPA, the funds would have prevented two million unwanted pregnancies and more than 77,000 infant and child deaths.
The US is the only country ever to deny funding to UNFPA for non-budgetary reasons.
The Bush administration claims the UNFPA provides aid to Chinese government agencies that force women to have abortions. This in spite of a recent State Department fact-finding mission which concluded there is no evidence that the program knowingly supports coercive abortion programs.
But the administration does not need to look as far as China for evidence of coercive reproductive policies, forced sterilization, forced foster care, and child exclusion policies.
Today we're going to talk to a legal scholar and social critic who traces a direct line between the eugenics movement, the forced sterilization of black women, and the way the current welfare laws in this country attempt to coerce poor women into having few or no children at all.
For example, the welfare programs in 23 states deny benefits to children born to a family on welfare. The federal "Illegitimacy Ratio program" gives a bonus of $20 to 25 million to the top five states that decrease their ratio of out-of-wedlock births.
But we start with Stirling Scruggs, spokesperson for the United Nations Population Fund.
Guests:
* Stirling Scruggs, spokesperson for the United Nations Population Fund. * Dorothy Roberts, legal scholar and social critic. She is author of "Killing the Black Body: Race, Reproduction, and the Meaning of Liberty," which received the 1998 Myers Center Award for the Study of Human Rights in North America, and most recently, "Shattered Bonds: the Color of Child Welfare." She is a professor at Northwestern University School of Law and a faculty fellow at the Institute for Policy Research.
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Feminist.org: Your daily source for the feminist perspective on national and global events. China Will Continue One-Child Policy Despite Criticism Feminist Daily News Wire March 23, 2006
The National Population and Family Planning Commission of China has announced its intention to continue its one-child per family policy despite allegations of abuse, while stepping up efforts to prevent sex-selection abortions. NPFPCC Director Zhang Weiqing said in an online forum that officials would continue to "unswervingly implement" the policy because higher population would place a strain on the country’s resources, reports Kaiser Network.
The one-child policy, enacted in 1978, has drawn strong criticism from activists and the international community. Last month, Chinese activist Chen Guangcheng spoke to The Guardian about the one-child policy, which he claims has included coerced abortions and sterilization, in addition to intimidation tactics. He is now attempting to launch a lawsuit on behalf of the villagers of the Shandong province who suffered abuses of the one-child policy. Furthermore, sex-selective abortion has favored male children, resulting in a pronounced gender-imbalance in the generation soon to reach maturity.
The effects of the repressive one-child policy are felt most heavily by the poor, due to the ease with which wealthy families can pay fees and have multiple children. According to Xinhua News Service, these families pay the “social maintenance fee,” while those who work for the government abide by the one-child policy out of fear for their jobs, and the poor cannot afford the fees.
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Feminist.org: Your daily source for the feminist perspective on national and global events. Huge Shortage of Girls in China Feminist Daily News Wire March 22, 2004
The United Nations (UN) has reported that China will face a huge shortage of girls that will cause major problems for China's family and social stability if the trend is not changed. In addition, the UN resident coordinator in China, Khalid Malik, stated that the shortage of women will lead to increased sex trafficking of women in China, reports UN Wire.
According to UN Wire, government figures show that there are 100 girls for every 116 boys in China. Other estimates show that there are as few as 100 girls to every 122 boys. Malik has predicted that in another ten years, if this trend continues, there will be 40-60 million more men than women in China. According to United Press International, the shortage of women could lead to a major increase in sex-related crimes such as rape, abduction, and mercenary marriages.
According to the Guardian, China’s one-child policy is putting pressure on couples to make sure their only child is a boy, resulting in cases of female infanticide.
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"a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom. But the tumult soon subsides. Time makes more converts than reason."
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The National Population and Family Planning Commission of China has announced its intention to continue its one-child per family policy despite allegations of abuse, while stepping up efforts to prevent sex-selection abortions.
From your post - whenever humanbeings correct what they perceive as wrong and force laws upon society/humanity in contradiction to moral/divine/natural law - major imbalances, upheavals and sufferings occur.
Just how successful do you think the Chinese government is going to be continuing in their extreme abuses of forced sterilizations and forced abortions??!! Look what it has created to date - an economic crises, an aging population, and many men have been denied marriage and family - an empty arm syndrome - a society more often by the coffin than by the cradle.
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ust how successful do you think the Chinese government is going to be continuing in their extreme abuses of forced sterilizations and forced abortions??!! Look what it has created to date - an economic crises, an aging population, and many men have been denied marriage and family - an empty arm syndrome - a society more often by the coffin than by the cradle.
You need to ask the CEO and executive board of Wal-Mart, and all of these free Market freaks who believe China is the best thing in the world. Ask all of your republican CEO's who send billions to China every year. When I go shopping and I see the phrase "Made in China'on an item, it goes back on the shelf. Don't blame me, don't blame the progressives and don't you dare blame the Feminists
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GG, I don't particularly care for the Chinese Govt., and we have made their economy the fastest growing in the world. We help them increase their military budget by 20 per cent a year...greatly assisted with the interest they earn from the U.S. for loans.
I wouldn't mind a bit if the current Chinese Gov.'t collapsed, but that would give you a problem....
Without the loans made to us by the Chinese "Communist" Gov't., the u.S. would have difficulty maintaining its armies in Iraq, let alone the continued functioning of other governments Depts....like the FDA that is supposed to protect us from poisen food stuffs coming from....China.
Thankfully, Somebody (a little dog I inherited) didn't get any of it.
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you know, polycarp- that might be the fastest way to end this occupation- wait for the collapse of the Chinese authoritarian-capitalist antireligious government
A Maine senator has proposed legislation to increase abortions in Maine. This is a letter to editor by a friend:
Dear Letters Editor:
Can someone explain to me, very carefully so I can understand, the difference between the student who murdered 32 people at Virginia Tech and the sponsors of LD 1309 in the Maine State Legislature?
This bill will forcibly take money from Maine citizens to pay abortionists to kill the next generation of "poor" people in Maine. Please don't tell me LD 1309 promotes "freedom of choice." The student was exercising his "freedom of choice." What's the difference? If I'm told the student was a madman, I'll ask "What makes the sponsors of LD 1309 sane, then, when they have the same goal, mass murder?
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Don't blame me, don't blame the progressives and don't you dare blame the Feminists
I hope these kinds of issues provokes your senses, and I most definitely do lay this at the feet of the party known as the progressives, and I absolutely DIScredit the Feminists who btw, include men. Many men have been overpowered by Feminaziism and willingly (so it appears) to participate in their dangerous ideologies.
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I wouldn't mind a bit if the current Chinese Gov.'t collapsed, but that would give you a problem....
Without the loans made to us by the Chinese "Communist" Gov't., the u.S. would have difficulty maintaining its armies in Iraq, let alone the continued functioning of other governments Depts....like the FDA that is supposed to protect us from poisen food stuffs coming from....China.
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I wouldn't mind a bit if the current Chinese Gov.'t collapsed, but that would give you a problem....
Without the loans made to us by the Chinese "Communist" Gov't., the u.S. would have difficulty maintaining its armies in Iraq, let alone the continued functioning of other governments Depts....like the FDA that is supposed to protect us from poisen food stuffs coming from....China.
polycarp, is it not the vocation of all to be defenders of all life and all the living and non living?
Are we not responsible to be supportive of representatives who will enact laws for the protection of the human person?
Are we not responsible to elect only those representatives who will enact laws that maintain the principle, the subject and the end of all social institutions to be focused on improvement and safety of personhood?
Are not each person according to gifts given to be actively engaged in personal betterment and its interdependence with the improvement of society? (CCC1881, GS25)
Have you acquiesced to removing all traditional thinking?
What is, is not in cement, and I think of a 2 Chron. 7:14 prayer to change hearts so that we might be moved to cause nations to be flourishing and not collapsing.
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As the Bush Administration Withdraws Funds to the UN Population Fund Claiming It Funds Forced Abortion in China, a Look at Coercive Welfare Laws, Forced Sterilization and Forced Foster Care Here in the US
One of the president's first actions was to stop our tax dollars funding the UNFPA, the UN organization that "works to ensure universal access to reproductive health, including family planning and sexual health to all".
What the proponents of UNFPA really intend is to deny food and medicine to the populations who do not acquiesce to abortions and to sterilizations to both men and women. Unbeknown to many women, they are are sterilized after an abortion. UNFPA shelves are filled to the brim with abortion appliances amd sterilization equipment. Families beg for penacilin and other medical supplies, but are denied or the organization has a very poor supply. Don't be fooled by UNFPA's rhetoric. They are a dangerous organization and Americans have a grave responsibility to stop any future funding.
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Thankfully, Somebody (a little dog I inherited) didn't get any of it.
I see no innocence but a test of resiliency.
See how the British (and the U.S. and the U.N.) caved into Iranians taking some British soldiers as hostages and then Iranians 'returning these soldiers as a gift!' and expecting respect because they did not rape the British daughter.
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I wouldn't mind a bit if the current Chinese Gov.'t collapsed, but that would give you a problem....
Without the loans made to us by the Chinese "Communist" Gov't., the u.S. would have difficulty maintaining its armies in Iraq, let alone the continued functioning of other governments Depts....like the FDA that is supposed to protect us from poisen food stuffs coming from....China.
quote:
I wouldn't mind a bit if the current Chinese Gov.'t collapsed, but that would give you a problem....
Without the loans made to us by the Chinese "Communist" Gov't., the u.S. would have difficulty maintaining its armies in Iraq, let alone the continued functioning of other governments Depts....like the FDA that is supposed to protect us from poisen food stuffs coming from....China.
polycarp, is it not the vocation of all to be defenders of all life and all the living and non living?
Are we not responsible to be supportive of representatives who will enact laws for the protection of the human person?
Are we not responsible to elect only those representatives who will enact laws that maintain the principle, the subject and the end of all social institutions to be focused on improvement and safety of personhood?
Are not each person according to gifts given to be actively engaged in personal betterment and its interdependence with the improvement of society? (CCC1881, GS25)
Have you acquiesced to removing all traditional thinking?
What is, is not in cement, and I think of a 2 Chron. 7:14 prayer to change hearts so that we might be moved to cause nations to be flourishing and not collapsing.
Are not the 100,000 plus dead Iraqi civilians part of that "all life" you are talking about?
Or the boy in Colo. who died because his family couldn't get an infected tooth pulled?
You are either for ALL life, or you wallow in hypocracy.
I don't approve of abortion. I do approve of providing for social conditions that may lower the abortion rate. To focus on protecting the "unborn", and support killing the born, either directly or indirectly makes no sense.
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To focus on protecting the "unborn", and support killing the born, either directly or indirectly makes no sense.
It is obvious that if we will not defend life from conception we will not defend the living.
Abortion is always wrong; war is sometimes necessary in order not to incur more people dying. No "civilized" humanbeing supports killing the born. Citizens of all nations have inalienable rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Violations of human rights must be stopped.
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Or the boy in Colo. who died because his family couldn't get an infected tooth pulled?
Who are the senators & representatives of the state of Colorado, and what are they and other citizens doing to make "true progress", a recognizable difference that does not inflict harm on others?
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Or the boy in Colo. who died because his family couldn't get an infected tooth pulled?
Who are the senators & representatives of the state of Colorado, and what are they and other citizens doing to make "true progress", a recognizable difference that does not inflict harm on others?
Colo. is a conservative state. Colorado has been 50th among all states for even childhood immunizations. Thanks to Democratic control of the legislature, this year it has risen to 16th. Conservative constitutional amendments have ham-strung the state legislature. This is about as good as it gets.
More kids are doing do die because of their parents finances. That is the way it is. Using "conservative thought", there is nothing that can be done except let the kid pull himself up by his bootstraps, work hard, and make wise investments....if he doesn't die first. So, GG what is your solution? How do you stop the next kid from dying tomorrow? One that has already been born.
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Originally posted by BrentBozo: you know, polycarp- that might be the fastest way to end this occupation- wait for the collapse of the Chinese authoritarian-capitalist antireligious government
Actually, if China puts a call on its loans, we'll collapse first.
There is an alterntive to that.... When the U.S. can't raise enough in taxes to pay the interest on the loans that we continue to acrue.
We are living on borrowed money, and borrowed time.
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So, GG what is your solution? How do you stop the next kid from dying tomorrow? One that has already been born.
Stop believing that the liberal democrats want to fix anything? If many as you should, they will lose their power. Creating dependencies has created the imbalances and was never intended to help any one up by their boot straps but to keep them stuck in a rotting system.
Big Daddy government is no grand daddy at all, but is actually crippling our nation. You support that very system that will not give a helping hand, that very system that believes killing from conception and beyond is the answer to economic woes. Creating dependency programs takes away the dignity of people. Without an opportunity to work for what is being given, people on these so called entitlement programs lose their ability and ambition to change all too often. (I know that is not true for all.) Too often social workers, IMO, create the need for their own jobs. Too often clients are put on psycotrophic drugs that removes ambition. (and stirs up Columbines)
The party's platform has removed the right to life, why would you expect genuine benevolence for the living?
The dept. of Education is another source to keep constituents under their thumbs. They advocate for the continual dumbing down of American education, yet these same advocates of "characterless values education" will NOT send their own children into the system desiring far better. I've seen in Boston what a black school looks like. It was one of the most depressing experiences I've encountered. It was a 5th grade class room in shambles to begin a new school year the following morning without a curriculum, without supplies, without even a clock in the room. The teacher was a good friend of mine and her experiences in that inner school of Boston was heart breaking. Even those being abused by the deplorable system did not recognize a helping hand towards change for improvement.
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Children who are raised by parents who are not married are at a greater risk of depression, suicide, child abuse, domestic violence, academic failure, criminal activity and poverty.
Get in touch with the studies on children with parents who never married or divorced, and the importance of traditional marriage for a child's well-being and the common good.
Bring back the need for families to stay together and stop supporting the wedges that separate what is meant to be naturally wholesome. Stop the blindness of what is taught to students in our public school system at a very young age. Stop the education that sexual gratification is necessary and a right outside of marriage.
Bring back love where love no longer exists.
Don't be afraid to do what is necessary to make authentic love happen and to be a society that affirms good behavior.
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So is Armageddon but that doesn't stop them from bringing it on.
It's like that old test Catholics used to use: if you live from being drowned, you are a witch, if you die, you were innocent.
If we are not accepted by the end of times, we are evil and if we are accepted, innocent...
This is really the reason these fundamentalists like GGod are actually looking forward to global destabilization...it makes them feel better knowing Jesus is coming again for the final "test." RAAAAAAPTUUUUURE! If the planet dies, GOD has accepted us and we are innocent, if we survive, we are 'EVIL.'
So GG, you think parents who watch their children die from lack of medical care didn't love them. Then why do they cry? Again, what is your solution?
Love of the parent doesn't stop their deaths GG.
If we followed the Command of Christ to tend the sick, that might be a start.
That is what he told GG to do. That is what He commanded GG to do. How do you propose to do it?
In the books of Acts, all Christians held all things in common. No we they stuff. No "this is mine and you can't have it, I'd rather you die"
Pope John Paul did everything but demand Universal Health care and stated it was immoral to let anyone do without it. Hmmmm. He restated the command of Christ in modern terms.
YOur solution does nothing.
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So GG, you think parents who watch their children die from lack of medical care didn't love them. Then why do they cry? Again, what is your solution?
I'm in just the opposite financial position as the 'enormous carbon print' al gore, or "hiring illegals to make me wealthy" pelosi. I have no excess to share, but I practice sharing from my own need.
And I have a voice to use by occasional letters to editor, BLOGGING, and seek opportunities for meaningful discussions with members who "fear to repeat themselves"- party you obviously endorse.
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So GG, you think parents who watch their children die from lack of medical care didn't love them. Then why do they cry? Again, what is your solution?
I'm in just the opposite financial position as the 'enormous carbon print' al gore, or "hiring illegals to make me wealthy" pelosi. I have no excess to share, but I practice sharing from my own need.
And I have a voice to use by occasional letters to editor, BLOGGING, and seek opportunities for meaningful discussions with members who "fear to repeat themselves"- party you obviously endorse.
GG, in a democracy YOU ARE THE GOVERNMENT. You instruct yourself (your government...you) not to tend to the sick and the dying. You are reponsible for the sick whether you like it or not.
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GG, in a democracy YOU ARE THE GOVERNMENT. You instruct yourself (your government...you) not to tend to the sick and the dying. You are reponsible for the sick whether you like it or not.
I have not victimized you, polycarp. Think about who does.
What makes you think I'm not aware of my responsibilities to care for the needs of others. You've presumed way too much.
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"Cardinal Lopez-Trujillo delivers a searing critique of the the promotion of condoms as a means to reduce AIDS, unintended pregnancy, and various sexually transmitted diseases. Current condom research makes it abundantly clear that they do not provide adequate protection against unintended pregnancy, AIDS, male gonorrhea, or anything else.
Chastity is plainly the only humane approach to solving these problems. Brian Clowes gives an in-depth review of available condom research, which presents the same dismal picture of their "effectiveness," and further underscores the need for strong promotion of chastity."
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GG, in a democracy YOU ARE THE GOVERNMENT. You instruct yourself (your government...you) not to tend to the sick and the dying. You are reponsible for the sick whether you like it or not.
I have not victimized you, polycarp. Think about who does.
What makes you think I'm not aware of my responsibilities to care for the needs of others. You've presumed way too much.
GG, in a democracy YOU ARE THE GOVERNMENT. You are instructing YOURSELF not to tend to the sick. When you instruct the government in a democracy, you are giving instructions to yourself. No, you are not victimizing me. I have medical care.
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What are you in a Representative Republic, or are you talking about ancient Greece?
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.
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What are you in a Representative Republic, or are you talking about ancient Greece?
One step removed from ancient Greece perhaps. We are stilll in a "representative "democracy", are we not? Not a representative "one-party-state"?
Even one step removed, it is still a government of the people. Reps. don't want what people want...out they go. Keep telling them you don't want medical care, you won't have it. Keep telling them you do, you will.
Tell them in-mass that Atlantis should be the 51st state, they'll try to annex it.
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Splitting hairs, we are a democratically elected representitive republic, not that it means anything functionally.
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.
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No, you are not victimizing me. I have medical care.
I'm glad for you, polycarp. God has blessed me with good health and for that I am very grateful. I recently spoke to a democrat who told me I have a right to expect health care. I quickly informed them I have no right to expect what is going to include death to others. National health care would cause the increase of abortions, euthanasia, gendercide, and genocide to blacks.
You seem to claim victimization of others who are without health hcare. Yet we know illegals receive all that they need and Americans do not. Quite insane don't you think?
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Planned Parenthood and the National Abortion Federation have made a conscious decision to conceal the sexual exploitation of underage girls and protect the men who commit these crimes.
Life Dynamics has compiled an overwhelming body of statistical evidence showing that the rate at which these two organizations fail to comply with mandatory reporting laws is in excess of 90 percent.
In order to confirm these statistics, Life Dynamics conducted a covert investigation in which we called over 800 Planned Parenthood and National Abortion Federation facilities across the country. Our caller portrayed a 13-year-old girl who was pregnant by her 22-year-old boyfriend. Her story was that she wanted an abortion because she and her boyfriend did not want her parents to find out about the sexual relationship. In every call the ages of the girl and her boyfriend were made perfectly clear. It was also unmistakable that the motivation for the abortion was to conceal this illicit sexual activity from the girl's parents and the authorities.
The results were appalling. Even though many of these clinic workers openly acknowledged to our caller that this situation was illegal and that they were required to report it to the state, the overwhelming majority readily agreed to conceal this illegal sexual activity.
Some employees of these organizations even coached our caller on how to avoid detection, how to circumvent parental involvement laws and what to say or not say when she came to the clinic. In a significant number of instances she was encouraged to lie about, or conceal, her age or her boyfriend's age or to give false names. During these calls it was not uncommon for the Planned Parenthood or National Abortion Federation representative to warn our caller that if someone were to find out about this situation her boyfriend could go to jail.
Worse yet, in states with parental involvement legislation, our caller was often informed about this option while also being instructed not to tell the judge about the age of her boyfriend. In some instances these employees even encouraged her to lie to the judge if specifically asked for that information. Other employees advised her that neighboring states have no parental involvement requirements and that if she went there and either concealed or lied about the age issue, she would have no problem getting a secret abortion.
In other words, they suggested that a 13-year-old girl should help to conceal a crime that was being committed against her. In some calls she was given instructions on how to circumvent the parental involvement requirement altogether, even to the point of suggesting that she bring someone along to sign for her who looked old enough to impersonate one of her parents.
Sometimes she would be told that, technically speaking, the clinic was required to report this activity to the state but that if the caller would either lie about her age or just keep her mouth shut when she came in for her abortion no one would ask any questions. Several times she was told that the facility had no interest in the ages of the parties involved or that they do not verify ages or check IDs and would accept whatever she told them at face value. One employee went so far as to tell her that if she came in with the cash she could be any age she wanted to be.
Unfortunately, situations like those described here are neither rare nor isolated. In the end, the vast majority of Planned Parenthood and National Abortion Federation facilities that we contacted were willing to illegally conceal the sexual abuse of this 13-year-old girl. In every case, the clinic representative had never met this child, knew virtually nothing about her, had only engaged in a brief telephone conversation with her, and was told nothing to indicate that her parents would be abusive if they discovered the sexual relationship.
Nevertheless, these clinic workers were willing - and in many cases eager - to help this child hide the fact that she was being sexually exploited from her parents and the authorities. Toward that end, they provided step-by-step instructions on how to circumvent state laws that were enacted specifically for the purpose of protecting children exactly like her, in situations just like this.
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No, you are not victimizing me. I have medical care.
I'm glad for you, polycarp. God has blessed me with good health and for that I am very grateful. I recently spoke to a democrat who told me I have a right to expect health care. I quickly informed them I have no right to expect what is going to include death to others. National health care would cause the increase of abortions, euthanasia, gendercide, and genocide to blacks.
You seem to claim victimization of others who are without health hcare. Yet we know illegals receive all that they need and Americans do not. Quite insane don't you think?
Good grief, GG. Illegals do not receive ANY medical care unless it is an emergency and they would die quickly without it. Check the laws!
Regarding citizens. If you deny innocent people health care because you think someone else may get an abortion with health care, you have very weird logic. Let someone die because someone else may do something you don't like? Give me a break!
That's like denying people running water because someone might drown their child in a bathtub. That is where you logic goes to. It makes no sense.
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Let someone die because someone else may do something you don't like? Give me a break!
Have had any moral theological education? Are you so innocent of the fact that health care is wrapped totally in power and controlling mechanisms or it would NEVER include any procedures outside of health care such as passing out condoms, birth controls pills and aborting babies.
What does passing out condoms and birth control pills to teens have to do with health and did you not know that abortion is the MOST dangerous surgical procedure??
The way it gets presented to me is that I am entitled. Polycarp, I detest the thinking that I or anybody is 'entitled'.
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Regarding citizens. If you deny innocent people health care because you think someone else may get an abortion with health care, you have very weird logic. Let someone die because someone else may do something you don't like? Give me a break!
Not to mention the military. Remember, our military is the LARGEST SOCIALIST project ever created in the history of human kind. EVER. Never has there been a larger or more powerful army designed to KILL HUMANS!!!! We spend more money on this human KILLING MACHINE than ALL other National armies combined. Yet we in the anti-war camp tolerate our money going for a military. I'm starting to think our nation's ability to wage war should be revoked, we've clearly abused that ability. Dufus is a crazy man with a weapon and because he feels victimized, he thinks he can kill whoever he wants. Just like the crazy man at Virginia Tech. Remember that? Aren't guns great?!There are just so many ways people devise to kill other people.
Jesus would be proud.
Does anyone tire of how GGod thinks we side with Chinese oppression because we are pro-choice?
Does anyone tire of GGod claiming that we are for Sharia because some of us are Anti-Christian?
Does anyone tire of her when she claims that we support the terrorists because we are against the war that had nothing to do with the 911 terrorists?
Issue after issue she tries this same tactic and in EVERY CASE, she not only mischaracterizes us but her position actually represents the same sort of thinking she opposes?
She's just so relentless in her ignorance. I don't know how many times Ive started to reply to some idiotic post that someone has quoted of hers to just close out the browser instead of responding. It's just come to a point in which everything she posts is just insane. She can't justify any of it.
I just think something is wrong with her and it's scary to think that there are many like her that have no idea how crazy their arguments really are.
Let someone die because someone else may do something you don't like? Give me a break!
Have had any moral theological education? Are you so innocent of the fact that health care is wrapped totally in power and controlling mechanisms or it would NEVER include any procedures outside of health care such as passing out condoms, birth controls pills and aborting babies.
What does passing out condoms and birth control pills to teens have to do with health and did you not know that abortion is the MOST dangerous surgical procedure??
The way it gets presented to me is that I am entitled. Polycarp, I detest the thinking that I or anybody is 'entitled'.
GG you are trying to force your own beliefs down someone else's throat, and you are willing to kill for it. Yep. Denying someone health care that they will die without is KILLING THEM! You advocate MURDER under the guise of saving life.
I don't believe in abortion. AND I am not willing to kill someone by denying them health care because someone MIGHT get an abortion.
I'm not willing to deny someone food because they might use the strength obtained from it to rob a bank either. Get rid of food stamps. They might feed a criminal!
You are willing to let people die rather than maybe provide a condom to someone. Which is the greater evil?
Other than catholic, nearly every other christian religion accepts birth control. You cannot force people to accept your beliefs when it kills them. This makes you no different than an Islamic militant. Accept my belief or die! Accept my belief, or die without medical care.
Where is the difference? There is none. You might as well be some Islamic nut case. You think the same way, and they will support your views on health care 100%.
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Pope John Paul did everything but demand Universal Health care and stated it was immoral to let anyone do without it
You must know perfectly well that The Great JPII would not have supported the hillary care package.
Ask any illegal or immigrant if they are denied healthcare. Our generosity is like no other nation and it has been to the point of needing to shut down health care facilities. WE have the best health care system in the world - and national health care as has been proposed would destroy it - because it includes procedures that have NOTHING to do with health care. Clean it up and it would get approved, you must know that.
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Other than catholic, nearly every other christian religion accepts birth control. You cannot force people to accept your beliefs when it kills them. This makes you no different than an Islamic militant. Accept my belief or die! Accept my belief, or die without medical care.
Where is the difference? There is none. You might as well be some Islamic nut case. You think the same way, and they will support your views on health care 100%.
Polycarp, are you defending that women should die early from cancer? Do you have any knowledge of how dangerous birth control pills are to a female body? The stupidity of equating warnings of ingesting highly carcinogenic pills to islamic laws is VERY insulting. Women need men who will defend them and NOT condone what kills them.
I may poorly defend what I believe to be as truth, goodness and beauty, but polycarp, at least I've been respectful to you.
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Breast Cancer Prevention Institute BCPInstitute.org
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If it's not OK for him to take steroids...
why is it OK for her?
The dangerous performance enhancing
steroids taken by athletes are
male steroid hormonal drugs
that build muscle.
One of their risks is liver cancer.
Similarly, female steroid hormonal drugs
build breast tissue.
They not only increase the risk
of liver cancer but breast and cervical
cancers as well.These powerful
steroid drugs are taken by millions
of teenage girls as BIRTH CONTROL PILLS.
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Why are teenage girls vulnerable to the cancer-causing effects of birth control pills?
Teenagers are especially vulnerable to breast cancer risk because their breasts are growing and most have not yet developed cancer-resistant Type 3 lobules through a full-term pregnancy. Therefore, the cancer-causing combination contraceptive steroids (birth control pills) are especially dangerous for them.
Breast Cancer Prevention Institute
How do steroid hormones affect breast development?
Breast tissue is made of lobules. A lobule is a unit of breast tissue that contains a milk duct and some milk producing glands.
There are four types of lobules: Type 1
Develop during puberty when estrogen levels rise and breasts develop
Type 2
Some form during puberty
Type 3
Form during pregnancy after 32 weeks
Type 4
Actively produce milk
Before a full-term pregnancy, most of the breast is composed of Type 1 & 2 lobules, with Type 1 comprising 70% of the breast tissue. Together Type 1 & 2 lobules are where 95% of all breast cancers start.
Therefore, steroid hormones are most damaging to the breast if taken before a full-term pregnancy.
Photomicrographs of Lobules
Type 1 Lobules Type 3 Lobules
After a full-term pregnancy, most of the breast is composed of Type 3 lobules which are fully mature and resistant to cancer. This is why a full-term pregnancy lowers breast cancer risk and why women who remain childless have a higher risk of breast cancer.
Breast Cancer Prevention Institute
How do steroid hormones and hormonal drugs increase breast cancer risk?
Both alone and in combination, the powerful steroids estrogen and progesterone and their synthetic equivalents (estrogen derivatives and progestins) can cause breast cancer through these two mechanisms:
1. They cause the breast tissue to grow which can result in mutations and ultimately cancers.
2. Estrogens can act as direct carcinogens causing cancer cells to form. 1. Breast tissue growth resulting in mutations and cancers
Every cell contains a complete set of genes composed of DNA in its nucleus. The combination of estrogen and progesterone steroids cause breast cells to multiply by first copying their DNA followed by cell division-this is called mitosis. While copying DNA during mitosis, mistakes can occur which are called mutations. Mitosis of mutated cells multiplies these mutations. Cancer results from accumulated mutations in a cell causing uncontrolled growth.
2. Direct carcinogenic effect of estrogen steroids
There are breakdown products of estrogen (metabolites) which can directly damage DNA, causing mutations and cancers to form. One such metabolite is 4OH catechol estrogen quinone, which is found in higher levels in women with breast cancer than those without cancer.
To be effective, high doses of contraceptive drugs must be given to suppress ovulation (the release of an egg) by mimicking pregnancy. They must also resist biodegradation so that one pill a day is effective. In a normal non-pregnant state, the levels of natural steroids are lower and present for shorter durations than experienced while using synthetic steroidal oral contraceptives. These are potent medications which should be used carefully and judiciously; for example, short-term needs or serious medical illnesses caused by hormonal imbalances.
Breast Cancer Prevention Institute What is the medical evidence for the link between birth control pills and breast cancer?
In June of 2005, 21 scientists of the World Health Organization's International Agency for Research on Cancer met in France. This group thoroughly reviewed the entire world's medical literature concerning estrogen-progestagen containing drugs which are found in contraceptive steroids and hormone replacement therapy (HRT). They concluded that these drugs caused breast, cervical and liver cancer.1
On January 19, 2006, the New England Journal of Medicine reported on the findings of two scientists from Johns Hopkins University which concluded that oral contraceptives increase breast cancer risk.2
In medical texts, birth control pills are acknowledged to increase a woman's risk of breast cancer while in use and for up to ten years after they are stopped.3 There is an approximate 20-30% increase in the risk of breast cancer in women who use these drugs.
Through public media coverage in 2002, women of this country were made aware of breast cancer risk from using HRT. As a result, millions of women stopped taking these drugs. Although the same type of drugs found in HRT are also found in birth control pills in even higher doses, their breast cancer risk remains widely unknown by the public.
Through their widespread use over the last 30 years, birth control pills and HRT are undoubtedly a significant reason breast cancer rates have increased 40% over that same period, especially in our young women.
Breast Cancer Prevention Institute But don't birth control pills lower the risk of ovarian and endometrial cancer?
Yes, they do decrease risk by suppressing ovulation and differentiating the uterine lining. However, according to the American Cancer Society, out of 100 women with cancer, 31 have breast cancer, 6 have endometrial cancer and only 3 have ovarian cancer, so it is not a good "trade-off" in risk.
Breast Cancer Prevention Institute What are some names of these synthetic steroids? Some are ethinyl estradiol, conjugated estrogens, norgestrel, medroxyprogesterone, levonorgestrel, norethindrone, norethisterone, desogestrel, norgestinate, mestranol, drostirenone, onorgestrel, drospirenone, and ethynodiol.
Many thousands of cases of breast cancer a year are attributable to these powerful steroid drugs. This is because millions of women take these drugs each year.
Breast Cancer Prevention Institute What about the new patch and vaginal ring?
They contain the same drugs found in birth control pills and increase breast cancer risk. The patch is especially dangerous as it raises estrogen blood levels 60% higher than the "the pill" and has resulted in strokes, venous clots and deaths.4
Breast Cancer Prevention Institute What about injectable birth control like Depo-provera and progestin-only pills?
The progestin only injection, Depo-provera, also increases breast cancer risk like the pill. There are no long-term safety studies available for the progestin-only "mini-pills" which have recently become available.
Breast Cancer Prevention Institute Does the morning after pill (emergency contraception) pose any breast cancer risk?
The morning after pill (MAP) contains a high dose of progestin. Some websites recommend taking multiple doses of birth control pills at once as a substitute for the MAP where it is not available. These medications may increase breast cancer risk if used regularly instead of infrequently for emergency use as intended.
Breast Cancer Prevention Institute Are there safe, effective alternative treatments for teenagers on birth control pills for different medical problems?
Yes, there are, as below: Acne:
Use safe topicals and antibiotics Menstrual cramps:
After a girl's first menstrual period, irregular periods are not abnormal for a time and reduce breast cancer risk later in life. 5
Breast Cancer Prevention Institute Are there safe, effective alternatives to oral contraceptives for family planning?
Yes, there are several natural family planning (NFP) methods. NFP methods teach women to reliably recognize their few fertile days a month. Studies all over the world have shown these methods to be at least as reliable as the pill even when a woman has irregular cycles and low education levels. It is cost free after initial instruction of the method chosen. The ovulation methods include the Ovulation Method of Natural Family Planning, the Creighton Model FertilityCare System6 and the Billings Ovulation Method. There is also the symptothermal method of the Couple to Couple League. (NFP is not the rhythm method.)
Breast Cancer Prevention Institute Why hasn't the National Cancer Institute (NCI) warned the public of these documented cancer risks?
There may be multiple ethical, socioeconomic, political and cultural reasons why this information has not been made readily available to the general public.
In February of 2005, Dr. Elias A. Zerhouni, the director of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), which encompasses the NCI, banned all staff scientists from taking drug-company fees because he wanted "the NIH to be a source of health information that could be trusted."7 Government scientists had moonlighting jobs and were receiving large fees and stock options from pharmaceutical companies, which is clearly an unethical conflict of interest. More alarmingly, in 2005 the prestigious British journal Nature published a study which showed 15.5% of scientists with NIH grants anonymously admitted to "changing the design, methodology, or results of a study in response to pressure from a funding source," which is a form of scientific misconduct.8
Former FDA director, David Kessler, wrote the book, "A Question of Intent: A Great American Battle with a Deadly Industry." In it he describes how the tobacco industry, through its economic and political clout, successfully suppressed for decades the link between cigarettes and lung cancer using the NCI and medical groups such as the American Medical Association.
Like tobacco, contraceptive steroids (birth control pills) are very widely used, having been taken at some time by at least 75% of American women, often for many years. The belief in the use and the safety of "the pill" is deeply engrained in American culture and the culture of American health scientists, in both the government and the pharmaceutical industry. Despite decades of studies demonstrating the health risks of birth control pills, the NCI has only very recently revised an oral contraceptive fact sheet on its website to reflect these studies.9
Breast Cancer Prevention Institute Why haven't cancer and medical organizations publicized the link between breast cancer and the pill?
These organizations take their lead from the NCI and other governmental agencies which at present have not widely publicized this information.
Breast Cancer Prevention Institute Resources for effective hormone-free family planning Ovulation Method of Natural Family Planning www.familyplanning.net Creighton Model FertilityCare™ System (CrMS) www.creightonmodel.com Billings Ovulation Method www.woomb.org Couple to Couple League www.ccli.org
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References
1 Cogliano V et al. Carcinogenicity of combined oestrogen progestagen contraceptives and menopausal treatment. Lancet Onc. 2005; 6:552-3. back
2 Yager JD et al. Estrogen Carcinogenesis in Breast Cancer. N Engl J Med. 2006;354: 270-82. back
3 Bland KI, Copeland EM. The Breast: Comprehensive management of benign and malignant diseases, 3rd ed. Saunders 2004;v1:499-535. back
4 Thacker, HL, et al. How should we advise patients about the contraceptive patch, given the FDA warning? Clev Clin J Med. 2006;73;1:45-47. back
5 Henderson BE, et al. Breast cancer and the estrogen window hypothesis. Lancet, 1981;2:363-4. back
6 Hilgers TW, Stanford JB. Creighton Model NaProEducation Technology for avoiding pregnancy. Use effectiveness. J Reprod Med 1998;43:495-502. back
7 William D. NIH Seeks 'Higher Standard.' LA Times 2/2/05. back
8 Martinson BC, et al. Scientists behaving badly. Nature; 2005;435;9:737-8. back
9 NCI. Fact Sheet 3.13, Oral contraceptives and cancer risk: questions and answers. Reviewed 5/4/06. www.cancer.gov.
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What I am saying GG is this. Stop trying to force your own beliefs down other peoples throats. It doesn't work.
Educate if you wish about dangers of birth control pills and let people make their choice. Educate about natural fertility cycles, and let people make their choice. What you are doing doesn't work.
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"Ideology is a disease"
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polycarp - Your way denies men and women the right to know the facts about these approved drugs that kill. You know as well as I that our informationLESS media will not (because they have not) be having news headlines - - (headlines that you love to quote over and over when it suites your purpose)
"If it's not OK for him to take steroids...why is it OK for her?"
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Originally posted by GG: polycarp - Your way denies men and women the right to know the facts about these approved drugs that kill. You know as well as I that our informationLESS media will not (because they have not) be having news headlines - - (headlines that you love to quote over and over when it suites your purpose)
"If it's not OK for him to take steroids...why is it OK for her?"
You have just contradicted what I said. EDUCATE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by polycarp: [QUOTE]Originally posted by GG: polycarp - Your way denies men and women the right to know the facts about these approved drugs that kill. You know as well as I that our informationLESS media will not (because they have not) be having news headlines - - (headlines that you love to quote over and over when it suites your purpose)
"If it's not OK for him to take steroids...why is it OK for her?"
1.That is an assumption 2. Your job in the matter is to EDUCATE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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1.That is an assumption 2. Your job in the matter is to EDUCATE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2.I did, I am, and to the best of my ability, I will continue.
1. (what do you mean an assumption!!!) Science has known since the 50's the connection of birth control pills and cancer.
Regardless if you are a monk, it would be good for you to know the other consequences of birth control pills, the consequences of other fertility controlling procedures, and who's withholding and blacking out this valuable information.
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More College Athletes Have Abortions to Avoid Losing Scholarships -- A new investigative report from ESPN reveals that women involved in college athletics are increasingly having abortions to avoid losing their scholarships. The sports television station's "Outside the Lines" program said the abortions are a response to college policies saying pregnant students will lose their university funding.
The report included interviews with seven Clemson University students who indicated they each had abortions to get around the policy. link link
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"Click anywhere on the map to see a report of USAID in the region selected.
USAID MAP OF SHAME
The Population Research Institute is proud to once again present the Map of Shame. Every year billions of tax dollars are budgeted to developing nations through the United States Agency for International Development (USAID). While many of its programs genuinely assist development efforts, other programs are decidedly in favor of reducing the country’s fertility rate using a matrix of methodologies.
Navigate our Map of Shame to view the most current figures and information on USAID’s activities among the countries of the world.
To begin, click on a Region using Map of Shame’s World Map. Once in a Region, select a country on the list below and click on it’s name. This will take you into our MOS country site which has demographics including the Total Fertility Rate per woman using the most current information available. Click on the image of the country and shortly you will be in USAID’s country site.
Once at the USAID site, you will see a table of the country’s projects listing grant allocations for three years. Click on the title of a project to review project specific fund allocations and activities. Below this table, there is also a short summary of USAID’s activity in the country." link
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GG, passing out condoms to teenagers and hookers saves lives. Dumbya cut world-wide AIDS funding because countries were not cracking down enough on prostitution. That costs lives, that simple. A virtuous woman is safe from AIDS, right?
HELL NO. Her virtue is far from a guarantee that her long-haul-trucker husband is not banging hookers from Ghana to Zimbabwe, which is why AIDS is an epidemic in Africa now.
Passing out condoms is to protect the health of teens who do not buy into your religious argument that the natural forces driving the body to get it on are demonic in nature.
I don't give a rat's whether it spoils your delusions of rectitude. Morality is not the government's business until sexual activity becomes rape. Government should worry about what corporations are stealing from us, not who's bumping whose fuzzy. "Just say no to sex " has never worked. Do you not comprehend this principle? Never worked. And our brain-damaged little tyrant is not going to make it work, no matter how much of our money he embezzles to invest in the effort.
Condoms, however, at least keep a randy boy's misbehavior from transferring lethal cooties to his wife ten years down the road. That is a far more important consideration than is your view of morality.
As for reducing the fertility rate, this is actually a good thing, despite your prejudices against the idea. Your stories of forced sterilizations are, I suspect, largely an urban mythology.
Look, it's like this. There are too many of us eating to much of the world's food supply, and fouling too much of the water supply as it is.
Women in under-developed nations are viewed as brood mares, by and large, and not just in Muslim countries. No woman should have to bear ten children when the local ecconomy, which is often represented by her husband alone, can only support one or two.
We are not going to go extinct if women start having only two children. Actually, it is probably better for the species if they bear only two who reach maturity, rather than ten, of whom only three live past a year.
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Morality is not the government's business until sexual activity becomes rape. ..passing out condoms to teenagers and hookers saves lives.
At what point of putting on a condom is it a lovable action?
If a man needs to put on a condom is he not lacking in understanding of who he is?
Will you please read the article in "open space" discussion 'contraception' titled "Dissolving Female Authority". The use of condoms and any form of contraceptive leads to the same thing.
Think about it. What are your responses.
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Putting on a condom is a very loving thing, if the lady is not on birth control and does not want to have a child. Denying her physical attention unless she runs the risk of pregnancy is arrogance to the highest power.
Get it straight. Not all women want to have children and no one has the right to tell them they have to.
If you cannot prove by mundane legal procedures the existance of God, God's design is not a consideration in mundane law in a free nation.
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The reckless act of putting on a condom is the misunderstanding of true masculinity. The behavior bluntly states to the female the uncontrolled need to reduce her to merely an object of uncontrollable passions. It furthers states the fear and lack of respect for his and her fertility.
The female used as object feels an ever more sense of loneliness and valuelessness. She was not recognized as a person.
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God's design is not a consideration in mundane law in a free nation.
I don't know what you mean by "Mundane law".
If a civil law is not hinged upon a natural law, than it is not a law to be followed. Autonomous secularized humanistic laws are not intended for permanency, and give special rights violating others the right to even live.
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Natural law dictates that a species survive using those traits at its disposal. The special trait that allows our wimpy species to survive is our ability to recognize consequences of actions and act in a manner that produces the desired consequence.
Over-taxing our resources to the point that we cannot feed ourselves, populatinng our world so densely that any new virus can propogate wildly does NOT produce a desired consequence.
Not every woman desires to have children. Thus, the man using a condom recognised her right to make that decision. If she wishes to take her chances, she has the choice to tell the man to stick that condom elsewhere and cease having any erotic relationship with him. And she should make that clear before marriage.
You do not have the right to tell us that god wants us to have children will we, nill we. He expects us to use our minds.
To insist that we have sex only at risk of pregnancy, or abstain utterly, is to place a barrier to expressions of physical intimacy that keeps the family unit together. The sexual desire that men feel for women, quite apart from the need to produce offspring, is part of what inspired a lot of the qualities we identify as distinctly human and noble, and allowed us to survive and evolve. (Don't turn it into a discussion of evolution now.)
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Thus, the man using a condom recognised her right to make that decision. If she wishes to take her chances, she has the choice to tell the man to stick that condom elsewhere and cease having any erotic relationship with him. And she should make that clear before marriage.
There is not a female on the face of the earth who will feel valued and loved by a man who puts on a condom to have sexual relations with her. Quite the contrary.
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You do not have the right to tell us that god wants us to have children will we, nill we.
Yes, if you are going to have sex the unitive procreative intention must be present. God said it, I didn't.
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He expects us to use our minds.
Absolutely - responsible parenting. Why do you assume artifically controlling fertility is the correct "use of our minds".
Putting on a condom is the obvious lack of faith, trust, and hope, but most of all it denies the dignity of personhood. The female is especially violated by the action.
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To insist that we have sex only at risk of pregnancy, or abstain utterly, is to place a barrier to expressions of physical intimacy that keeps the family unit together.
Can you explain how the action of sterilizing sexual intimacy is conducive to family life?
Can you explain how one can USE the another in such an intimate coming together and claim it is not actually pure selfish gratification?
In other words, just how loving is it in for the family unit to USE one another and not MASTER natural energies.
Furthermore, if you do not love her fertility, you do not love her.
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The women in my life have valued themselves as soldiers, health care workers and teachers, even as mothers. Some of them, however, have chosen not to become mothers, or to limit the numbers of children they have.
It would be arrogant of me to deny them that choice.
You are defining women purely in terms of their reproductive functions, and that is to devalue those who do not choose to reproduce, or at least refuse to reproduce at the rate you would demand of them.
You don't really respect women.
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Posts: 359 | Location: Spanaway, WA | Registered: 19 June 2006
Originally posted by leftysergeant: The women in my life have valued themselves as soldiers, health care workers and teachers, even as mothers. Some of them, however, have chosen not to become mothers, or to limit the numbers of children they have. ..... .... You don't really respect women.
You evaluate women by their 'doing' and not by their "being", not by their personhood.
Men and women have a lofty calling, an incredible potential.
You've changed the discussion topic to 'negation of sex', I think. I'll defend you if bill king notices and objects because after all, sex and love do intersect .
* * * * * * * * Without traditional regular moral principles that may be consulted confidently, justice cannot long endure anywhere.
Posts: 6275 | Location: Maine | Registered: 31 December 2005
You've changed the discussion topic to 'negation of sex', I think. I'll defend you if bill king notices and objects because after all, sex and love do intersect
no GG, YOU changed it. you were the one who originally mentioned birthcontrol pills and condoms in this thread. you act as if either of them corrupt someones soul.
you are also mistaking a MEDICAL situation with a supposedly religious one. let me ask you GG. where in the bible does it say condoms or birthcontrol is immoral or against the law? it doesnt. once again, you have been brainwashed.
i pity you GG. i really do. im sure jesus does to. right now hes probably telling god, "forgive her father, for she does not know what she do"
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"if this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck lot easier, just so long as im the dictator" -GWB Dec 18,2002
Posts: 1614 | Location: ft myers florida area | Registered: 23 September 2006
where in the bible does it say condoms or birthcontrol is immoral or against the law?
Levitracus.
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.
Posts: 8264 | Location: Fl | Registered: 05 July 2001
there are other parts of the bible that states any man who kills a woman pregnant with a child wont be punished for killing the unborn child.
there is also another passage saying that if a man kills a woman, he is a murderer. however, if he kills a womans unborn child, he only has to pay a fine. that means the unborn child was considered a piece of property for which restitution is required.
the bible sure is an interesting document. one passage contradicts the other. that is why i dont believe or listen to the vast majority of it. i use common sense and dont listen to the religious nuts who say "this is against the bible"
------------------------------------------ debating conservatives is easy. so easy, even a caveman can do it!
"if this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck lot easier, just so long as im the dictator" -GWB Dec 18,2002
Posts: 1614 | Location: ft myers florida area | Registered: 23 September 2006
Jesus, first Bill, then you. I changed warning to warming when I talked to Bill while you were talking about GG changing a post. Now Levitracus. There is no Levitracus. There is Leviticus. Levirta makes your dick hard.
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.
Posts: 8264 | Location: Fl | Registered: 05 July 2001
No, I wasn't refering to a book, I was making a joke. I guess if I have to explain it, it's a bad joke. I have no idea what's in Leviticus and someone would have to threaten gouge my eyes out before I'd read it.
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.
Posts: 8264 | Location: Fl | Registered: 05 July 2001
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