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".. The purpose of the Map of Shame is to expose the United States Agency for International Development's (USAID) involvement in and sponsorship of population control programs worldwide.

Using this map, you will be able to see how much money was requested for use in various programs in every country where USAID is currently active. The three figures presented in each country represent different programs supported by USAID: 1) money requested for use in population control activities, 2) money requested for use in health activities, and 3) money requested for use in food assistance programs. In many cases, the money requested for use in population activities grossly exceeds that of money designated for use in health care or food assistance programs where the money could be used to improve the lives of the women and families everywhere. LINK


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infanticide, Abortion Responsible for 60 Million Girls Missing in Asia..


There is a little-known battle for survival going in some parts of the world. Those at risk are baby girls, and the casualties are in the millions each year. The weapons being used against them are prenatal sex selection, abortion and female infanticide — the systematic killing of girls soon after they are born.

According to a recent United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) State of the World Population Report, these practices, combined with neglect, have resulted in at least girls in Asia, creating gender imbalances and other serious problems that experts say will have far reaching consequences for years to come.
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PRI The UN's Future

Major personnel changes at the United Nations have just occurred, and major international events will unfold next year as President Bush pursues a new Iraq policy and all the other trouble spots of the world continue on
their unmerry course. These events and top UN personnel get a lot of attention, and rightly so. But what about deeper underlying trends, the ones that drive surface events and which will do so much to determine the future of the world ten, twenty, thirty years from now? These
issues--demographics, ideological shifts, slowly changing structures of power--don't get as much attention as sectarian violence in Iraq, mass
murder in Darfur, or U.S. ambassadors to the UN. Yet they are more important in the long run.

Unfortunately, John Bolton is out as U.S. ambassador to the UN, deep-sixed by a loser liberal Republican senator (Lincoln Chafee) and Democratic senators angry over Bolton's opposition to Fidel Castro, still a darling
of the left in his dotage, and his effectiveness in defending American interests. Bolton was also the main driving force behind efforts to
reform the transparently corrupt and inefficient UN bureaucracy, a reform drive that will probably die now.

Kofi Annan is out as UN Secretary-General. It is tempting to say he was the worse UN secretary-general ever, but the competition is too stiff. His replacement sworn in, South Korea's Ban Ki-moon, doesn't seem to have a clear agenda, or a mandate to reform the UN.

Yet reforming the UN's many agencies so that they become less corrupt and more effective would not necessarily be a good thing. Of course, if UN officials and their Third World dictator friends stole less of the humanitarian aid funds meant for starving people, that would be a good thing. If UN peacekeepers spent more time keeping the peace and less time raping local women and girls, that would also be a good thing. But increasing the efficiency of much of what the UN does away from the limelight would not be beneficial.

Here is a brief reform agenda for the incoming UN Secretary-General and U.S. ambassador to the UN regarding the destructive long-term trends
promoted by various UN bureaucracies, away from the razzle-dazzle of the Security Council:

1. End the promotion of population control. When will population controllers realize that they have won? Birthrates have plummeted almost everywhere in the world in the last 30 years, yet the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) and other UN agencies continued to work under the assumption that there are far too many children being born, particularly if they are yellow, brown, or black.

Latin America's birthrate is down to 2.5 children per woman in her lifetime, not far above the replacement rate of 2.1, and headed further down. Mexico is already below replacement.

China, with 20% of the world's people, is at 1.7--and UNFPA is still active there. Asia as a whole is at 2.5 and dropping fast. Europe is at
a suicidal 1.4. The United States is at 2.0. Only sub-Saharan Africa still has high birthrates, and they are desperately needed due to the ongoing decimation of African populations through war, famine, and disease. Does the entire human population of the world have to be on the road to extinction before the UN stops promoting population control?

2. End the promotion of feminism. One of the paramount forces destroying families, societies, and birthrates in the modern world is feminism.
Feminism's denigration of positive feminine values of domesticity and child nurturance and exaltation of negative masculine values such as
careerism and power-seeking is currently exterminating the Western world, in a literal sense-there are too few children being born. The UN, through all its social agencies from UNFPA to UNESCO to the Convention on the
Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW), relentlessly promotes feminism, including abortion "rights." All kinds of studies as well as common sense show that two-career couples face greater stress and are more likely to divorce, and both also show that raising children outside of the traditional family leads to disastrous consequences far more often than when they are raised inside of one.
CEDAW doesn't bother the United States, but has commanded small, weak nations to legalize abortion and abolish Mother's Day. When will the UN's insane project to make women into men cease?

3. End the radical environmentalist jihad. When I visited Ireland last month, I marveled at the unthinking acceptance of the global warming
mythology. Of course, many interests and organs have come together to promote the fraudulent claim that we must lower our standard of living in order to avert environmental catastrophe, but the UN busies itself with spreading this secular millenarianism around the globe, including in Third World countries where people desperately need industrialization rather than economy-destroying theories of a coming apocalypse.

4. End the push for world government. We supposedly live in an age of increasing democracy. Yet here are home, so many of our most important policies--on abortion, on marriage, on criminal's rights, on religion's
place in the public sphere--are decided by unelected judges. In Europe, the elites that control the elected governments there have been
transferring greater and greater power to the European Union. The UN, too, has been gradually accumulating more power though none of its
officials or voting delegates in the General Assembly are elected or are otherwise accountable to ordinary people. In fact, the UN is mostly a collection of dictatorships, oligarchies, and quasi-democratic regimes.
This treaty organization wants to turn itself into a world government, with direct power of taxation and other marks of sovereignty. One of the newer ideological methods of expanding the UN's power is the concept of "human security," defined to include health care, employment,
anti-discrimination laws, housing, etc. UNcrats use this concept to argue that security among nation-states--the UN's primary mission--can only be guaranteed if each nation-state guarantees human security,

thus giving UN potentates unlimited power to meddle in nations' internal affairs. This is a new twist on the old Communist argument about economic rights.


Notice that none of my suggestions entail the UN doing something good,only refraining from negative activities, activities that are incidental to its mission of promoting peace and international security anyway. All of these suggestions would save money, too. Few rational people believe that UN bureaucrats can be made to do much good or that these bureaucrats can be replaced with decent people. All that we can hope is that they may be prevented from doing harm. Since the United States provides 22% of the general budget of this destructive organization, using financial leverage could be a good place to start.


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Do you ever read anything other than neo-con propoganda? Current corporate globalization is creating a one-world government that will make national governments irrelevant. Economic clout will be held by corporate empires with the power to ruin nations or grant them favors. Your own government is in the forefront of promoting this agenda.

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Your own government is in the forefront of promoting this agenda.

I agree totally, poly. Imagine that! We agree on something. GWB is a forerunner of one world order and if hillary becomes president, within 6 months it is predicted the US will be wholly consumed in the 'one world government' and no longer living the freedoms we have known.

And your race will have no heirs, poly. hillary loves abortion and she hates the military.


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abolish Mother's Day.


Can I ask for my Roses back?


"a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom. But the tumult soon subsides. Time makes more converts than reason."
 
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Your own government is in the forefront of promoting this agenda.
Likewise, yours has lost the sense of "holy bashfulness".


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she is being 'unfair' to women terrorists; shame on you, for lumping them into a category with men terrorists
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http://www.klannedparenthood.com/History_of_Abortion_Statistics/


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Your own government is in the forefront of promoting this agenda.
Likewise, yours has lost the sense of "holy bashfulness".


Difference being this: I don't support these right these right wing nuts that have been governing the country for the past 30 years. It's not my government of choice.

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"polyamnesty"

"And your race will have no heirs, poly."

I say there's a racist undercurrent to this post, as there is about a lot of the anti-immigrant rhetoric
 
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"polyamnesty"

"And your race will have no heirs, poly."

I say there's a racist undercurrent to this post, as there is about a lot of the anti-immigrant rhetoric

Not at all, Brent. I've posted the reference to the current genocide often in this forum. Is this the first time you've ever heard about the 15 MILLION blacks not with us since R. v W. 1973? How tragic for us all!! cry

And, Brent, it's not ANTI immigrant rhetoric - it's ANTI ILLEGAL aliens/immigrants.


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GG, I'm more concerned about the human race having heirs. My own particular branch of it is irrellevant with that understanding.

Ultimately, if humanity doesn't use "free will" to annihilate itself, there will only be once race. The physical outward differences disappear more and more every year.

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GG, I'm more concerned about the human race having heirs. My own particular branch of it is irrellevant with that understanding.

Ultimately, if humanity doesn't use "free will" to annihilate itself, there will only be once race. The physical outward differences disappear more and more every year.

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How perfectly perfectly sad for you and yours. What a heart-less commentary cry


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GG, there will ultimately be only one race. If you think that is "sad", get over it.

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GG, there will ultimately be only one race. If you think that is "sad", get over it.

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No, poly amnesty, God willing I will never get OVER IT as long as I can take a breath. You are unbelievable to not defend your own. How sad for us all. And you say you defend the poor? I don't think you do poly - ?? You are one of the very poor in spirit and that is the worst kind of "poor".


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GG posted: "Not at all, Brent. I've posted the reference to the current genocide often in this forum. Is this the first time you've ever heard about the 15 MILLION blacks not with us since R. v W. 1973? How tragic for us all!!"

Alright, GG, thanks for the clarification.

Was thrown off by expressed desire for descendents of our race.

As for illegal immigrants: if we sent them all home, or most of them, the US economy would collapse, as the cheap and abundant labor is the base of it. Not that I would shed tears about the collapse of the capitalist economy.
 
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I agree totally, poly. Imagine that! We agree on something. GWB is a forerunner of one world order


wait a minute GG!! you are ONLY NOW saying that gwb is for a one world order???? you supported that idiot twice. because of yours and everyone else who voted for him, we are in this situation. we warned you, yet you let your pride and ignorance blind you to the reality of the situation. only now, when the problems accumulated with this administration has grown out of control, do people like you admit that maybe something is wrong.


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"if this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck lot easier, just so long as im the dictator" -GWB Dec 18,2002

 
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ou to the reality of the situation. only now, when the problems accumulated with this administration has grown out of control, do people like you admit that maybe something is wrong.

and hillary thinks she will be a very strong candidate for the white house and btw she has never changed her postion on supporting GWB on the war in Iraq. Infact, the liberal press is priming the way for her by that very fact especially since the surge is finally being reported - OH, yes, fisherman - hillary is a proud one world order lady = HaTES the American military and will be sure to hand over freedom in exchange for nothing but misery to all Americans to the michale moores and the george soros open border society one world order. The final nail in the coffin will be socialized health care. She wants the power and she will do what ever it takes. One of yours, fisherman! Yea, I guess Joe Lieberman (who dared to be an independent thinker in the party) is not so bad after all!


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GG posted: "Not at all, Brent. I've posted the reference to the current genocide often in this forum. Is this the first time you've ever heard about the 15 MILLION blacks not with us since R. v W. 1973? How tragic for us all!!"

Alright, GG, thanks for the clarification.

Was thrown off by expressed desire for descendents of our race.

As for illegal immigrants: if we sent them all home, or most of them, the US economy would collapse, as the cheap and abundant labor is the base of it. Not that I would shed tears about the collapse of the capitalist economy.
You greatly UNDER estimate the resiliency and stamina of Americans. Actually, you misunderstand why illegals were allowed to enter this country to begin with.

I wish I had the time to challenge you on capitalism. It's One of the reasons we have become a strong vibrant nation; but than there are Americans who feel threatened by that and feel the need to apologize for the hard work of LEGAL immigrants. We did it before and we can continue to do what has proven to work. But than again - I keep going back to break our nation and break our government for that great surge of one world religion and one world government - dictatorship!!


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GG, there will ultimately be only one race. If you think that is "sad", get over it.

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"AGEISM" is a major culture crises in many countries including the United States (OH, if only we were united cry).

The UN death culture vultures have done some fancy finagling to get people of 60 plus nations to reproduce themselves at a less than replacement rate . People were once proud of their heritage and wanted heirs to continue it. Polyamnesty has relinquished and renounced his heritage and does not want to "spiritually parent" them any longer. I plead your case for you if you cannot for yourself, Poly. The human population is one family and when one suffers we all suffer. We one falls we are called to lift them up and plead for them and with them that life is worth living and to live it with gusto, with righteousness and with truth!


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GG posted: "You greatly UNDER estimate the resiliency and stamina of Americans. Actually, you misunderstand why illegals were allowed to enter this country to begin with.

I wish I had the time to challenge you on capitalism. It's One of the reasons we have become a strong vibrant nation; but than there are Americans who feel threatened by that and feel the need to apologize for the hard work of LEGAL immigrants. We did it before and we can continue to do what has proven to work. But than again - I keep going back to break our nation and break our government for that great surge of one world religion and one world government - dictatorship!!"

So we have approx. 15 mil. illegal immigrants in the US who are currently providing relatively cheap labor. Most native-born Americans are working long hours already. And I'd say with a little bit of training, just about any native-born Amerian could get a job such as are currently held down by the illegals (which means that either currently-employed or unemployed native-born do not want those jobs, at least not at the pay at which the illegals are willing to work).

It all adds up to: we (the US), as its economy is currently configured, NEED the illegal labor. Not saying this is a good or bad thing; am saying that profitability (which you appreciate) and labor needs dictate this, currently.

As for "one world religion": well, the probability of that doesn't even register.
 
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It all adds up to: we (the US), as its economy is currently configured, NEED the illegal labor. Not saying this is a good or bad thing; am saying that profitability (which you appreciate) and labor needs dictate this, currently.


Our economy is built upon respect for LEGALITY for the most part. It's a sham to not enforce legal immigration laws by employers. We have a front door to enter. We need to enforce legal immigration or the economy will have no lasting value. We need to STOP encarcertaing law enforcement border patrol agents, rewarding illegals and RESPECT what has been established to keep Americans safe. Johnny Sutton needs to be fired!!

Have you not heard the many crimes by illegals. Many neighborhoods have lost any sense of protection by law enforcement. The ACLU will too quickly claim all sorts of charges when one wants to protect one's own property. Our jails are filled with illegals. They drive without licenses and without insurance. They drain our emergency care centers and our schools systems. They get first reward for many things and American citizens are now the second class citizens. The legal immigrants are highly disturbed and feel threatened. English seems to be the second language of choice.

You know that one of the root causes is to create voter blocks for the upcoming presidential election and all state elections. Those that are paving the way for illegals to have all rights as other Americans are blinded by power, desiring control and removal of our known freedom. Why don't we just make Mexico another state?

Do you know what the Mexicans do to illegals in their country? Yet Mexico h0llows holy terror when Americans attempt to enforce our laws against their illegals in our country.

Illegals are changing many things and this is only the tip of the ice berg.


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GG posted: "Our economy is built upon respect for LEGALITY for the most part."

This statement is meaningless as regards the obvious need for the illegal labor force that is in this country. Legality is beside the point of necessity in this case.
 
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This statement is meaningless as regards the obvious need for the illegal labor force that is in this country. Legality is beside the point of necessity in this case.

As in the making of millionaires as pelosi and friends making big bucks off the backs of illegals. As in "separation of families" as was one of the major reasons for across the board amnesty (as if they trulu cared).

I can't believe you answered that we need what is ILLegal to make our system work. YOU KNOW that is not why illegals have received protection status and allowed to break numerous laws in our great nation.

We don't even have to begin with below replacement birth rate of Americans- but it's a stark reality of the indoctrination of relativism and humanistic ideologies trying to fix what's broken.

What else do you propose will 'illegal' be necessary so that the US can function? What have you done with our Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence, and US Constitution?


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I know this? No, what I think I know is a lot of US businessmen, large & small, think they need cheap labor (and maybe they do). And a lot of Latinos need a job that pays US minimum or a bit more.

That's all there is to it, really.
 
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