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Our Incredible Human Potential

Why has it been suppressed? Why does humanity more often focus upon misgivings? Should we not instead focus upon humanity’s origin and true destiny. The authenticity of human nature is of life affirming attributes such as valor, gallantry, self control, nurturing, and procreation, just to name a few.

Inherently each person has the desire for rights and freedom for all. Each person according to capacity can do good and avoid harm. It takes a lot of fast talkin’ to steal and to dull the senses of goodness.

It might seem more desirable to retreat into one’s comfortable corner of the world in order be unmoved, to be uncaring, and to cause the dimming of natural motivational energy to achieve. However, humanity is called to a standard of living and responsibility unlike the rest of creation. Our incredible human potential includes the Down Syndrome child, the disabled, the dying, the elderly, and even to the person faced with last moments of life on earth.

Only people can preserve, beautify, and bring to completion the universe. Each person has an individualized purpose unlike another. Each person is a resource in each season of their life in spite of the difficultly to be understood by human standards.

It is with exceptional character that many charitable works and giving are performed. Often times people give out of their need and not out of their excess. Historical man has committed many acts of bravery, stood for the witness for life, and performed many autonomous actions of goodness. Soldiers fight for freedom and safety for their loved ones risking mockery, defeat, and loss of life. Authentic human character respects authority and desires to build and improve social and psychological wellness. Our incredible potential desires to relieve the stresses of poverty, hardship, and considers others more important than themselves.

Let not your hearts be troubled, for human beings can and do love wholesomeness in living.


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you also forgot to mention the evil or inhumane human potential that exists in every human in some level. this evil exploits, admires corporate greed, welcomes poverty and despair, becomes gleefull at the slaughter of innocents, the destruction of civilization.

this evil manifests its self in every person to some degree, including you and i GG. i, often lose my temper. you force your morals onto others. but yet, as you pointed out, there is also good in everyone to some degree also.

but looking back on the last 6 years, its hard to see much in the way of incredible human potential coming from the current white house. i didnt not see any of the gallantry, self control, and nurturing that you mentioned. i did not see them respecting the desire for rights and freedom for all.

instead, they have acted with evil actions, even if the intentions were good, the outcome is still negative nonetheless. true, there were glimmers of hope, residing in coast guard efforts to save katrina victims, to bush standing in the WTC rubble. but the evils done by this administration far outweighs any 'incredible' potential.

where was the administrations potential when 911 occurred? it was the ordinary citizens of the nation that displayed acts of bravery, courage, and life saving that day of attack. the national government, on the other hand, went into hiding for a few days. when the nation gets attacked like that, you are supposed to be a strong leader and stand up, not scoot from one secret base to another.

where was the administrations potential when katrina struck? bush was on vacation at his crawford texas ranch. he was warned ahead of time by the NHC of a storm of "biblical porportions". yet not a finger was lifted ahead of time to get things in place. the lessons of 2004 and earlier 2005 were quickly forgotten. although nothing can be done about the storm, something could have been done about the response. even Al Gore was in new orleans before the national guard and fema got in. the navy medical ship Hope didnt arrive to the area until 2 weeks after landfall. it should have been sent ahead of time, as it was stationed in virginia.

the administrations incredible potential in regards to human rights. someone wise once said that those who would give up essential libertys for security deserve neither. this administration seems to be trying its hardest to pry itself into americans private lives. we are already subject to searches, wiretapping, email and blog site (like this one) overview, financial record searches, the suspension of all hapeas corpus for american citizens deemed an enemy combatant, and for its disregard for the sovereignty of other nations and its people.

where was this administrations self control when it came to fiscial matters? not a single veto. instead of surplus liked we had when they took over, we now have deficits that will span generations. the last 6 years have seen more government spending than all other years combined!! surely this could have been avoided, even with disasters like katrina and 911. america has always bounced back, but it seems to be faltering under this administration.


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"if this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck lot easier, just so long as im the dictator" -GWB Dec 18,2002

 
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fisherman, humanbeings have an incredible potential; therefore, we also have inherently been given the free will to choose "the means justifies the end", or what is less than human actions. Humanity has been given a dignity to choose goodness and with each action we are stating "To whom do we will to serve"?


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your reply doesnt answer any of the questions i raised about the wasted potential of the current administration.

instead of using 911 as a means to unite america, the current administration has done nothing but divide.

instead of seeking worldwide allies on the war on terrorism, we threaten some nations with santions or attack if they did not cooperate. sorry GG, but the 'coalition of the willing' does not constitute global support.

instead of helping americans that need help the most, the current adminstration has only forgotten them. instead they cater only to big business (like oil) and the super rich. tax cuts? only for the rich. corporations like exxon are posting the largest profits ever and yet most americans are struggling just to get by. so much for their potential.


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debating conservatives is easy. so easy, even a caveman can do it!

"if this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck lot easier, just so long as im the dictator" -GWB Dec 18,2002

 
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Saints Weren't Perfect, Pope Says
Claims Holiness Is Something Everyone Can Learn
JAN. 31, 2007 (Zenit.org).-

The saints are not people who never made mistakes or sinned, but who repented and were reconciled, says Benedict XVI.

This fact is a personal consolation for the Pope himself, as he explained in today's general audience. . .

"Hence, also among saints there are oppositions, discords and controversies And this is very consoling for me, as we see that the saints have not 'fallen from heaven,'" the Holy Father said.

"They are men like us, with complicated problems. Holiness does not consist in not making mistakes or never sinning," Benedict XVI continued. "Holiness grows with the capacity for conversion, repentance, willingness to begin again, and above all with the capacity for reconciliation and forgiveness.

"And we can all learn this way of holiness."


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and the moral of that story would be.....?


that bush has never admitted to a mistake?

i dont see what you are trying to get at GG. it has absolutely nothing to do with any of the points i raised.

also , has benedict ever publicly apologized for being a member of hitlers youth army?


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debating conservatives is easy. so easy, even a caveman can do it!

"if this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck lot easier, just so long as im the dictator" -GWB Dec 18,2002

 
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Virtues still matter, fisherman. It is so easy to be distracted by the many technological advancements that makes many believe that humans are the center of the universe and can exert human will upon nature and reconstruct the world.

We cannot achieve authentic discovery of our human potential, we cannot perceive the truly beautiful possibilities of life if we neutralize our existence with moral indifference and deny whom we are.

Choose this day to be truly animiated with fullness of life which modern relativists want to steal from you.

I won't answer your many questions in this thread, fisherman. It distracts from our incredible human potential.

(I don't know where to take it.)


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Tenderness -
is the interior essence for whom we feel closely linked. Humanbeings can enter into their inner feelings and experience another's state of mind.

Our incredible human potential can outwardly express to another the sharing of feelings and state of mind. This emotional attitude is always personal, private, and displayed only to those who can understand it and respond to it properly. It is an emotional committment to feel close and share with an other(s) joys and sorrows, burdens and sufferings.

Tenderness is an incredible human potential meant for one's refinement. It is also to be guarded with delicacy and vigilance for it can be misunderstood. Risking expressions of giving tenderness and receiving tenderness is a bonding of mutual sharing and caring for the good of others.


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Generosity -
is virtuous action of spending oneself without counting the cost. Not burdened by selfishness but motivated by love, generosity is not detained by personal preoccupations. Love overwhelms discouragement, weariness, pain and inconvenience to serve for the good of another(s).

Generosity goes beyond duty. Even if discerning imperfectly but desires with humbleness to do better, to do a little more, and not settle for mediocracy. A generous disposition is a human vocation to be cultivated incrementally towards a complete gift of personhood - an incredible achievable human potential.


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You treat us like animals, and we treat you with respect-


I don't know if you'll find your way into this thread. What part of this or any of my posts attach others as if they are animals? You make the attach, yet you fail to substantiate. I've attempted to be respectful in my reasoning that human beings are to be protected before all else or what good is preserving anything else.


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Little to do with Jefferson.
 
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Tenderness -
is the interior essence for whom we feel closely linked. Humanbeings can enter into their inner feelings and experience another's state of mind.

Our incredible human potential can outwardly express to another the sharing of feelings and state of mind. This emotional attitude is always personal, private, and displayed only to those who can understand it and respond to it properly. It is an emotional committment to feel close and share with an other(s) joys and sorrows, burdens and sufferings.

Tenderness is an incredible human potential meant for one's refinement. It is also to be guarded with delicacy and vigilance for it can be misunderstood. Risking expressions of giving tenderness and receiving tenderness is a bonding of mutual sharing and caring for the good of others.


Of course, this is only to be applied to Christian American Citizens. Surely, it must say this somewhere in Scripture.

It doesn't apply to Iraqis's, Muslims in general, non-citizens, etc., etc., etc. At least not according to your other posts.

"Only those who can respond to it properly" is a direct contradiction of Christ's teachings. When did you start your own religion? "Love thy neighbor" includes all the above, not just those who "respond properly".

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"Ideology is a disease"
 
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"Only those who can respond to it properly" is a direct contradiction of Christ's teachings. When did you start your own religion? "Love thy neighbor" includes all the above, not just those who "respond properly".

What do you propose to keep human civilization safe from an enemy who cannot be reasoned with? The Islamofascists have violated all the rules of war - have made it perfectly clear of their intention to rule the world by force. Any who will not submit to their slavery will be killed. So wise man, you explain in detail how to stop kidnappings and making demands, and if not met killing kidnapped victims by machine guns or sawing their heads off? You are an intelligent man and I'm sure you have thought all this out on how to stop the caliphate of jihadists. General Patraeus (spell.?) would love to hear from you.

Please begin. I look forward to the detailed steps you propose to bring peace with Islam back to human civilization.


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Islamofascists have violated all the rules of war


Smiler Oh right Geeg. And what would they be? No hitting below the belt? The Geneva Convention?

Wise up.

War is war is war Geeg. There are no rules. Your illusion of morality is forfeit when you join in. (or indeed start it).


When the world is run by fools it is the duty of intelligence to disobey
 
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"Only those who can respond to it properly" is a direct contradiction of Christ's teachings. When did you start your own religion? "Love thy neighbor" includes all the above, not just those who "respond properly".

What do you propose to keep human civilization safe from an enemy who cannot be reasoned with? The Islamofascists have violated all the rules of war - have made it perfectly clear of their intention to rule the world by force. Any who will not submit to their slavery will be killed. So wise man, you explain in detail how to stop kidnappings and making demands, and if not met killing kidnapped victims by machine guns or sawing their heads off? You are an intelligent man and I'm sure you have thought all this out on how to stop the caliphate of jihadists. General Patraeus (spell.?) would love to hear from you.

Please begin. I look forward to the detailed steps you propose to bring peace with Islam back to human civilization.


GG, either give up your religion or give up your views. Christ made no exceptions. Neither can you unless you give up your religion. Rather than promote killing, you are required to become a martyr if necessary. That's just the way it is.

The Christian concept of martyrdom is the opposite of a Muslims. Rather than kill for your religion, you are required to die for it rather than kill for it. Stop imitating them.

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Dads, love your children and do all that is necessary to keep them from harm.


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GG: why not post a lovely picture of 'you', so we can compare it to your dead fetus pictures?
 
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