To he who eats and sleeps with the dinosaurs, Are you referring to that era that pardoned more criminals than any other Pres. of the U.S.?
Are you referring to loving actions of he and his tender wife towards the military who made it UNlawful for the military to wear their uniforms in the White House as they served as WAIT STAFF!!?
Are you referring to the obstructed justice, tampered, intimidated, and "lied under oath in the Paula Jones v. Clinton case?
Lied to the AMerican People and Congress regarding Monica?
Are you referring to the ERA that improperly claimed priviliges, abused powers, misused federal agencies, laundered money, politicized the Justice Dept., the IRS, The FBI, the EPA, and FDA??
Are you referring to the era who racked up campaign finance abuses with White House "coffees" and Buddhist Temple fundraising?
The ERA who violated the "Privacy ACT"?
He who continually perjured himself?
HE who was in contempt of our judicial system?
Or was it HE who indulged in ridiculous sexual adolescent casual sex?
Or maybe it was He who had countless cases of rape charges against him and his lovely wife blamed the right wingers and NEVER apologized when it was discovered that bill had no dignity of what is true masculinity.
Or maybe we've forgotten the foreign illegal campaign contributions, donations from spies, drug dealers, and arm smugglers?
Let's not forget the shredded documents and the Whitewater documents that disappeared and SUDDENLY REappeared!
Who did What with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. That's cute - Bill C. must have rewritten the --"BILL" of Rights-- for his own enjoyment of mocking America and has not stopped doing just that.
I have more memories of that era. You interested?
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GG, Bill had consentual sex and fibbed about it. According to Lancet, the British medical journal, Bush's lie has caused over one million Iraqi's to die...most children.
You compare the two?
Clinton made a lot of pardons. Bush when he was Gov. of Texas brgged about how many prisoners were executed under his watch...in contradiction to your church which condemns the death penalty. The church allows the death penalty only when there is no safe prison to hold someone in to protect society.
Get your values in order. Consentual sex isn't nearly on the same par with a million deaths.
Clinton didn't "brag" about his affair. Bush bragged about his sanctioned, anti-Christian executions.
The man who led the Clinton impeachment proceedings (Gingrich) was having an affair at the same time while his wife was horribly ill. Just which affair should have been impeacheable if this indeed is an impeacheable offense? Hypocricy.
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Geee, polycarp, u have understood and showed super-duper compassion towards a blog-adder who finds it necessary, in her life now, to lash-out t' folks, indescriminately! Her silence is heartening; good job! My question this weekend begins with a lay observation. The U.S. is fine without a state religion. But the Church has for one thousand five hundred and fifty years, since the unsuccessful Council of Nicea, 473 A.D not answered the question of the 'source of the Holy Spirit', that which is sort of 'one way' about the Earth, be it of the Father or the Son, and although this would have united the East and Western Orthodoxies under one Church, did the clerics appreciate cultural representation from Scotland to Jerusalem, and suffer the absence of a 'government'?
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clinton mocked his wife and daughter, the American people, the office of Presidency, and his own masculine nature. He revealed his disgraceful mannerisms towards women repeatedly and lack of discipline.
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gg, you are so full of $hit. clinton had consentual sex with an adult woman. heaven forbid!!! did his sex act with monica effect you personally in anyway? did u lose your job because of it? was america put in jepardy because of it? were people killed because of it? of course not!!
you are only attempting to push your form of shia law onto america.
since you are so against consentual sex between adults, how come you dont bring up the catholic molesting priests that love fondling young boys?
how come you dont bring up the catholic church and its stance of not letting priests become fathers? so u approve of the catholic church denying these men fatherhood (real babies, not spiritual makebelieve ones)?
you show case make believe faults of clinton, yet constantly give the current president a free pass when it comes to our civil rights, his drug filled past, the illegal wars we will be marred in forever, huge deficits, ect ect...
why do you love to see america suffer so much?
btw, how can you say clinton mocks his own masculine nature? were you once a man? have you ever been a man? do you have male sexual organs? then how can you say he mocks his man nature when you obviously dont know anything about men? if you are not a man, then how can you condemn him for being and acting like one?
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since you are so against consentual sex between adults, how come you dont bring up the catholic molesting priests that love fondling young boys?
You've got the facts wrong because the dinosaur media was afraid to report the truth.
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do you have male sexual organs? then how can you say he mocks his man nature when you obviously dont know anything about men? if you are not a man, then how can you condemn him for being and acting like one?
clinton has not a clue what a real man is. USING women as sexual objects is not anyone's idea of manhood and furthermore, he has influenced many of our teens into sexual behaviors that have caused the epidemic of STDs and cancers. Nice legacy.
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You've got the facts wrong because the dinosaur media was afraid to report the truth.
so now you are denying that people were molested and abused by catholic clergy? if that is true, how come some priests have been tried and convicted? how come the los angeles diocese recently paid out MILLIONS for a settlement with the victims? are you denying crimes have even occured? sounds just like how you deny the holocaust.
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clinton has not a clue what a real man is
and you do? so once again, ill ask you. have you ever been a male? do you have male sexual organs? have you had a sex change in the past? are you a she-male? if not, then how would you know what a real man is, if you are not one?
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USING women as sexual objects is not anyone's idea of manhood and furthermore, he has influenced many of our teens into sexual behaviors that have caused the epidemic of STDs and cancers. Nice legacy.
sorry to burst your bubble, but people have been having sex lonnggggggg before clinton. so essentially that destroys that weak arguement you made.
do you have proof that sex causes cancer GG? not one single medical journal or publication will agree with your lie. maybe your magical fairy tale book the bible says it does. but that doesnt make it real.
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so now you are denying that people were molested and abused by catholic clergy?
Some priests were convicted of a sexual crime but not the crime as reported by media. The media fails on the details of the sexual exploits. I make no attempt to cover or make excuses.
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and you do? so once again, ill ask you. have you ever been a male? do you have male sexual organs? have you had a sex change in the past? are you a she-male? if not, then how would you know what a real man is, if you are not one?
I laugh but that really is a very sobering question to ask anyone. I've been a female all my life and it is a privilege to be a female.
Real women know real man.
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do you have proof that sex causes cancer GG?
There is alot, fisherman. Here is some:
"The people with oral cancers containing the HPV16 strain were three times as likely to report having had oral sex as those whose tumour did not contain HPV16. There was no difference between men and women in terms of how likely the virus was to be present in the cancers. The researchers think both cunnilingus and fellatio can infect people's mouths....
Cancer specialist Newell Johnson of King's College London agrees. "We have known for some time that there is a small but significant group of people with oral cancer whose disease cannot be blamed on decades of smoking and drinking, because they're too young," he says.
"In this group there must be another factor, and HPV and oral sex seems to be one likely explanation. This study provides the strongest evidence yet that this is the case."
Cancer-causing strains
Genital HPV infections are common. At any one time, around a third of 25-year-old women in the US are infected. It is thought that only 10 per cent of infections involve cancer-causing strains, and that 95 per cent of women will get rid of the infection within a year. But even this does not explain why so few develop cancer.**
Prevention could soon be a possibility as well. Several research groups are developing vaccines against HPV, intended to reduce the 250,000 deaths worldwide each year due to cervical cancer. It is thought the vaccines would prevent oral infections as well as genital infections.
Journal reference: Journal of the National Cancer Institute (vol 95, p 1772)
________________ **don't be fooled by that statement. Remember the population controllers and the abortion money making industry influence and distract from the fact that many suffer and many die.
Hey, fisherman, I wonder why nobody thinks that chastity and abstinence until marriage might cut back on the spread of HPV, STDs and cancers that kill people. What a novel idea!! don't you think? Why are not the public schools teaching this wholesome behavior? You and I know planned baron hood wants to kill babies to make the bucks. They want alot of youth engaged in dangerous sexual activities because they want the bucks. What's it going to take for men and women to tar and feather planned baron hood?
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But even this does not explain why so few develop cancer.**
it sounds like sex does NOT cause cancer from that report. why do you even bother posting articles that are destructive to your agruement GG? it just makes you look more of a fool than you already look.
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Hey, fisherman, I wonder why nobody thinks that chastity and abstinence until marriage might cut back on the spread of HPV, STDs and cancers that kill people.
GG, people get cancer from many things. and if a person has an std, being married wont protect their partner from the disease. you act as if marriage is some 'magic condom' that will prevent illness, death, and disease. welcome to the real world! it doesnt!!!
btw, people get can get stds even from kissing (certain herpies viruses) and guess what, they can get cancer from hundreds of sources. id rather take my chance with an std than to listen about abstenace and chasity.
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Why are not the public schools teaching this wholesome behavior?
its wholesome in YOUR opinion. not mine. sorry, but you cant force your shia law onto me. if you want things like you talked of, go to a radical religious school. you know, the radical muslems you hate so much think sex is bad too. maybe you can have a gathering of similar minds.
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You and I know planned baron hood wants to kill babies to make the bucks.
no, i dont know. now you somehow magically know what i am thinking? are you a witch casting black magic to read minds now? because you can be excommunicated for that.
and i can say 'you and i know the catholic church wants to enslave and brainwash stupid people into giving them $$ so they can pay off their sexual assault settlements.' yup, that sounds about right.
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GG: what is the difference between a church, and a state?
lol asking GG that is like asking a 4 year old 'wheres waldo?'. she cannot possibly answer that without resorting to a lie. ill bet my planned parenthood $$ on that.
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"The Underlying Problem. It is common knowledge among health professionals that sexually transmitted diseases (STDs), some of which are incurable and/or fatal, have found fertile ground to multiply in societies that permit and even celebrate all forms of permissive sex. Unfortunately, most people, for fear of appearing “backwards” or “repressive,” treat this glaringly obvious fact like a basilisk -- they dare not look at it or even speak about it.
The response of most `developed’ world governments at every level, and the reaction of various social service agencies to this explosion of STDs, was as predictable as it was pitiful: They took the inherently Humanistic position that Americans (not just teenagers) are mere animals. Since they can’t be trusted to control their sexual urges, we might as well make it as safe for them as possible to have sex with whomever they please.
The government’s weapons of choice were not chastity and monogamy, but `education’ and condoms. Even Bill Clinton’s Surgeon General, Joycelyn Elders, sported a “rubber tree” on her desk -- festooned, of course, with condoms."
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They took the inherently Humanistic position that Americans (not just teenagers) are mere animals
apparently, your catholic priests couldnt control their sexual urges either and ended up molesting thousands, if not millions of children. how sad.
and humans ARE animals GG. humans are mammals. scientific term is homosapien. humans eat, have sex, breath, and fight just like animals. and some have the intelligence of an animal (like a slug). does that last one ring a bell for you GG?
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The government’s weapons of choice were not chastity and monogamy, but `education’ and condoms
ooh no!! the goverment is trying to EDUCATE children! heaven forbid if they learn something! but i guess you would rather have a generation of idiots running around. first you complain that the government isnt teaching our kids and now you are complaining that they are.
btw GG, do YOUR children send THEIR children to public or catholic schools? yup, i thought so. at least your mental instability wasnt passed onto them.
so let me get this straight...you would rather have mny ppl die from stds than to have them educated about safe sex and condoms. rather draconian dont you think?
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GG: I can say, nicely that your brain did not devlope fully-as is the case with all Americans. What I (REALLY) mean- is that there was only one ALBERT EINSTEIN, and although calm reflective people have found his theories full of, FEATHERS, none castigate his neo-modern interpretation of percentages, with perfect regard to the brain MASS employed by say, good priests; on the other HAND, devilishly JULES VERNE types construct fantastic submarines out of thin air, and when it's all over, they begin again, with submerged capabilities. Ergo-we're all equal. GET IT???..."bubbles"!
Posts: 582 | Location: New York City | Registered: 13 February 2007
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
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The first Amendment states that it restricts government from establishing or prohibiting religion; it protects, rather than restricts, individuals who wish to exercise their religion, whether in public or private.
Educators administrators have interpreted the phrase, "separation of church and state," which IS NOT in the Constitution, to mean they have a constitutional duty to stamp out religion. Thanks to the A c L u - they have foistered this incorrect interpretation. And Americans are literally "falling" under it.
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GG: I can say, nicely that your brain did not devlope fully-as is the case with all Americans.
REALLY!!! Most Americans are Christians. Most of our American soldiers fighting for your safety in Iraq are Christians.
But true, my conscience formation is dramatically different than yours.
Christians do seem to take great delight in killing. Usually, they are busy killing other Christians. Iraq suggests a temporary change back to the era of the Crusades.
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Posts: 3412 | Location: denver co | Registered: 17 April 2007
Christians do seem to take great delight in killing. Usually, they are busy killing other Christians.
It was not Christians who flew planes into the trade towers on 9/11 and cheered when 3000 died.
It is not Christians who are kidnapping, executing prisoners violating all rules of war. It is not Christians who are threatening a world caliphate; it is not Christians who are sawing off heads, circumcising and stoning women. It is not Christians who are blaming the Jews for all the evils of the world and threatening to annihilate the whole nation of Israel AND THEN comin' for olde Sam.
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but it was christians who preach anti-homosexual rants and then get caught trying to get sex from undercover cops.
and it is christians who sexually abuse young men in catholic churches
and it is christians (as you stated) doing most of the fighting overseas (dropping 3000 lb bombs on children, raping girls and then killing their family, and committing hate crimes against brown people.) why does a 'peaceful' religion resort to so much bloodshed.
and it was a christian who bombed atlanta during the olympics.
and it was a christian who bombed oklahoma city.
and it was a christian who bombed abortion clinics
and it was a christian (roman catholic pope) who signed a pact with the nazis (who ironicly, were christians themselves)
and it is christians who violate all international laws on torture like the geneva code
and it was christians (nazis) (roman catholics actually) who started the holocaust and tried to exterminate the jews.
and it was a christian (pat robertson) who wished for the destruction of orlando by means of hurricane
christians dont sound like nice people.
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Revolutionary War. Christians vs. Christians War of 1812: Christians vs. Christians Civil War: Christians vs. Christians Spanish-American War: Christians vs. Christians Mexican-American War: Christians vs. Christians World War I: Christians vs. Christians World War II: Christians vs. Christian Germans/Italians and non-Christian Japan Korean War: Christians vs. non-Christians Vietnamese War: Christians vs. Christians and non-Christians Iraq War I: Christians vs. non-Christians Iraq War II: Christians vs. non-Christians
World War III: American Christians vs. everyone?
Most of the other 250 minor wars, incursions and overthrows were Christian vs. Christian.
As I said, Christians seem to take delight in killing. Especially one another. Give them a flag to grab onto, and they'll stomp their bibles into the ground to carry it into battle.
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I said, Christians seem to take delight in killing. Especially one another. Give them a flag to grab onto, and they'll stomp their bibles into the ground to carry it into battle.
You're totally desperate.
*You neglected to mention the abortion providers who have successfully killed 48 MILLION babies since 1973 through surgical procedures. Included in the 48 MILLION are 15 MILLION black babies; by HEY, don't YOU be alarmed.
*there are millions of babies lost by MAP, RU486 and the abortifacient effect of birth control pills, not to mention the harmful effects of the chemicals to the female body. But why should THAT small matter effect YOU!
Poly, if you want to play the numbers game, you will discover that secularist regimes have killed far more people than Christians.
Tell me a nation existing on the face of the earth that is communist or Islamic, that allows Christians to practice their faith and/or even have a right to life.
Tell me of a rogue regime that did not first slaughter and continues to slaughter the Catholic Priests and Catholic/Christians. Why do communists and Islamofascists fear Christianity more than any other and make them the first to die? Why do democrats hate the baby in the womb? Why do hillary & baruk OBama not want to extend medical care to the unborn child; land why do they fear giving babies who have survived an abortion medical treatment but insists they must die in total agony without comfort. That OK with you along as you eat, poly??
It is not Christianity that is killing 3000 DAILY in our great nation.
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Tell me a nation existing on the face of the earth that is communist or Islamic, that allows Christians to practice their faith and/or even have a right to life.
cuba. cuba is a mainly christian nation. even fidel himself was once a catholic. thank god he came to he senses and stopped practicing the catholic cult.
btw, in the past, there have been many so called christian nations
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I laugh but that really is a very sobering question to ask anyone. I've been a female all my life and it is a privilege to be a female.
