Why is it so difficult to explain the logic to the statement, "They simple ARE".
ARE what, based upon what, rooted and grounded in WHAT? Is there a fear for definitions and boundaries? Is the fact not to reason "ARE" what is in actuality simply faith in the "UNexplainable"?
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. .renowned historian and educator William J. Bennett continues his acclaimed history of the United States -- and confronts head-on the America-hating historians whose works liberals have imported into our schools and universities by the truckload...
..this new book is a lively and unapologetically patriotic account of the tumultuous decades that saw America become a world power, face down Nazi and Communist tyranny, and stand today against the global Islamic jihad as the world's last, best hope to defend freedom.
Unlike the Leftist historians who speak and write as if American history was little more than a litany of injustice, racism, imperialism, and oppression, Bennett writes this book with careful attention to historical accuracy, a keen and insightful conservative perspective, and, above all, with forthright and unashamed patriotism.
As people around the world today look to America as their best earthly hope, here is a welcome and comprehensive antidote to the Hate-America-First indoctrination that passes for education in all too many of our schools.
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Please don't say individuals, because individuals can only make up a sum total of ????
Individuals working together.
The US/UK war machines are making the situation worse (whilst raking in the profits obviously). The current trajectory is towards increased misery. A change of tactics and a better ... a change of game is required.
I don't see this change coming from the present administration or indeed any US administration. The military machine requires constant feeding by your tax dollars and foreign lives.
When the world is run by fools it is the duty of intelligence to disobey
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The US/UK war machines are making the situation worse (whilst raking in the profits obviously).
KennyMac, I've got it, I've got the answer how to stop the atrocitious evil actions of the war machines!! Really, I do!!! The best of humanity has not reached a consensus on what's to work, but now you have it, here it is. Who else has got the capacity but the amazing God given talents of "WOmen Power", yes truly, women are the answer!!! Consider carefully the simple but plain truth of the wonder of the feminine nature:
Aristophanes (c. 411BC) "After 21 years of war, the women of Athens, led by Lysistrata, take matters into their own hands. Lysistrata suggests every wife and mistress should refuse all sexual favours until peacetime. Before long it proves effective, peace is concluded and the play ends with festivities."
There you have it. Quite ingeniuous, don't ya think? OK, now let's begin the plans for the banquet. Oh my oh my, I'm just goin' to be sooo busy in preparation of this glorious celebration. Hmmmmm, now whom are we goin' to invite?
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How our national monuments and memorials prove the case for God in the public square. Rediscovering God in America: Reflections on the Role of Faith in Our Nation's History and Future by Newt Gingrich
The secular Left's relentless effort to drive God out of America's public square is not only destructive -it is deeply dishonest. All it takes to see just how important religion was to our nation's Founders -and to generations of their successors -is to take a stroll around Washington, DC. That's exactly what former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich does in Rediscovering God in America: Reflections on the Role of Faith in Our Nation's History and Future. This "Walking Tour" of the significant monuments, memorials, artifacts and documents in our nation's capital serves as a rebuttal to those who seek to write God out of American history. Step by step, you will see the concrete case for defending the place that America has always acknowledged for the Creator in our public life.. .
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Aristophanes (c. 411BC) "After 21 years of war, the women of Athens, led by Lysistrata, take matters into their own hands. Lysistrata suggests every wife and mistress should refuse all sexual favours until peacetime. Before long it proves effective, peace is concluded and the play ends with festivities."
Yup. Great Idea.
When the world is run by fools it is the duty of intelligence to disobey
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How our national monuments and memorials prove the case for God in the public square. Rediscovering God in America: Reflections on the Role of Faith in Our Nation's History and Future by Newt Gingrich
The secular Left's relentless effort to drive God out of America's public square is not only destructive -it is deeply dishonest. All it takes to see just how important religion was to our nation's Founders -and to generations of their successors -is to take a stroll around Washington, DC. That's exactly what former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich does in Rediscovering God in America: Reflections on the Role of Faith in Our Nation's History and Future. This "Walking Tour" of the significant monuments, memorials, artifacts and documents in our nation's capital serves as a rebuttal to those who seek to write God out of American history. Step by step, you will see the concrete case for defending the place that America has always acknowledged for the Creator in our public life.. .
From my own observations, in general, the secular left has more of a grasp in implementing the teachings of Christ than does the general population of "born again" Christians, most of whom I suspect have never even read the 4 Gospels where His teachings are to found. Retired Monk.
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. .renowned historian and educator William J. Bennett continues his acclaimed history of the United States -- and confronts head-on the America-hating historians whose works liberals have imported into our schools and universities by the truckload...
..this new book is a lively and unapologetically patriotic account of the tumultuous decades that saw America become a world power, face down Nazi and Communist tyranny, and stand today against the global Islamic jihad as the world's last, best hope to defend freedom.
Unlike the Leftist historians who speak and write as if American history was little more than a litany of injustice, racism, imperialism, and oppression, Bennett writes this book with careful attention to historical accuracy, a keen and insightful conservative perspective, and, above all, with forthright and unashamed patriotism.
As people around the world today look to America as their best earthly hope, here is a welcome and comprehensive antidote to the Hate-America-First indoctrination that passes for education in all too many of our schools.
What's this "As People around the world look to America as their best earthly hope"? More than 100 of those nations look upon us as one that denies basic human rights which they have adopted and we have not. I refer to the International Covenent on Political, Social and Cultural Rights. Signed by the U.S. years ago, but never ratified by the Senate. Example: A citizen denied medical care, is denied a human right. Lots of them we don't have or recognize. Retired Monk.
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This "Walking Tour" of the significant monuments, memorials, artifacts and documents in our nation's capital serves as a rebuttal to those who seek to write God out of American history. Step by step, you will see the concrete case for defending the place that America has always acknowledged for the Creator in our public life.. .
KennyMac - I have no explanation to the inscriptions and symbolisms except that possibly as so often happens in growth and towards maturity, individuals straddle two worlds.
KennyMac - that was quite a speach you gave in "Conflict Transformation & Peaceful Communications".
You defined the problem(s) and the necessity to change values, but how is that to happen?
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What's this "As People around the world look to America as their best earthly hope"? More than 100 of those nations look upon us as one that denies basic human rights which they have adopted and we have not. I refer to the International Covenent on Political, Social and Cultural Rights. Signed by the U.S. years ago, but never ratified by the Senate. Example: A citizen denied medical care, is denied a human right. Lots of them we don't have or recognize.
Ask any illegal immigrant about health care. NONE are denied health care nor are US citizens denied health care. People in countries with socialized health care wait months for needed surgeries or MRIs - - -. Not only that but the hillary health care included more babies in the womb would be part of necessary health care!! Since when is pregnancy a disease??
I do not have health care and I do not want forced socialized health care benefits. The US currently has the best health care system in the world and that would be destroyed.
BTW, if this nation is so atrocious, why has it been the sanctuary for millions upon millions - more than any other nation hmmmmm?? It's strange the Spanish do not flock to Cuba or Venzuala. Why do you think that is?? They have more in common with their language and customs - but they come to the U.S. for SAFETY - FREEDOM - health care benefits, education, housing and ample food provisions freely provided. How many Cubans have lost their lives to get to the U.S.???
The basic human rights we do not provide is the CHild in the womb's right to live. Gratefully our Supreme Court held up partial birth abortions are to be banned - a baby JUST 3" of its head from total birth was and still considered by NARAL - NOWS should be exterminated if the mother chooses (and absolutely of NO health benefit to her!!) The babies base skull is jabbed, brains are suctioned and than collapsed to complete delivery. The grotesque excutiatingly painful killing is a dreadful scourge on this great nation.
Basic human rights, (I just can't say this enough) is being removed by the ACLU. Ask parents of public school students what the lower district courts are telling them about 'parental rights'. These traitorous judges are telling parent they HAVE NO rights in the class room and The ACLU is making remarkable headway to steal kids from any parental authority. Who's defending ponography for kids?? YUP, the ACLU.
You disgracefully put down a very benevolent nation and you apparently have slid into the mindset - 'hate and blame American first' most popular crowd.
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KennyMac - FrownerI have no explanation to the inscriptions and symbolisms except that possibly as so often happens in growth and towards maturity, individuals straddle two worlds.
Why the frowner Geeg?
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You defined the problem(s) and the necessity to change values, but how is that to happen?
Individually, one person at a time. Like everything else.
When the world is run by fools it is the duty of intelligence to disobey
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Individually, one person at a time. Like everything else.
You're being too abstract. With all the controversy with right and wrong, good and evil - what's the SOURCE - process, method??
Islamist's believe mohammadism is the source. Christians view the Passion of Christ as the source.
Atheists believe humanism is the source.
Marxism, naziism, communism, totalitarianism thuggery dictators believe indiviuals have NO rights and they are to be controlled, considered only ulitilarian MASSes of purposeful production or die!
How did evil become good and and good become evil??
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You're being too abstract. With all the controversy with right and wrong, good and evil - what's the SOURCE - process, method??
I find it interesting how you seem to require source, process and method. It's as if you need to have someone else to tell you (the older the source the better) what to believe, how to behave, what to think, how to worship, what God is etc etc. Looking for a source outside of yourself.
I find it strange because every wisdom tradition (including Christianity) suggests looking WITHIN for your OWN source.
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Islamist's believe mohammadism is the source. Christians view the Passion of Christ as the source.
Which is interesting since both Prophets taught that God (of Abraham) was the source. Perhaps the majority of these followers are looking at the finger when the finger points to the moon
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Islamist's believe mohammadism is the source. Christians view the Passion of Christ as the source.
Which is interesting since both Prophets taught that God (of Abraham) was the source. Perhaps the majority of these followers are looking at the finger when the finger points to the moon
HE who died for me has got my attention. He who died for me was foretold of His coming. He was born to die for the redemption of the world. From Genesis we read of the Word - and the Word, the Second Person of the Blessed became flesh. The Word Incarnate was sent by the First Person, God of the Trinity and it is by the Third Person of the Trinity, the Holy Spirt that I am moved to form my conscious in order to root out vice and grow in virtue.
Our hearts, Scripture tells us can deceive us. Therefore, human beings cannot decide alone what is it they ought to do. For our safety and salvation and ALL we come in contact, we have been given guidelines. These guideline are the conflict because pride & arrogance prevent willingness towards correction and needed direction of what we ought to do in order to avoid harm and conflict.
These same natural laws inherently yes, written on each heart have become thwarted because of the major influences of worldliness and the lure of what feels good do it. We are a prideful people believing we can do it OUR way without assistance from HE who showed us the way as in Beatitude Living.
Did you think our Creator left it to individuals to figure right and wrong for themselves without a designated earthly source to assist us as pilgrims on this earth's journey? This is not our home but we live for the life hereafter - and our destination for all eternity is in accordance to our willingness to correct heart and mind formation - either heaven or hell.
"If my people who are called by my name, humble themselves and pray and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and heal their land (2Chron.7:14). These words have been put into a song that is beatiful.
Human civilization will not survive by individuals making up their own mindsets for right and wrong actions for we have not the capacity in and ONLY of ourselves to do so. Please don't misconstrue that we are simple mindless robots. Quite the contrary.
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Therefore, human beings cannot decide alone what is it they ought to do. For our safety and salvation and ALL we come in contact, we have been given guidelines. These guideline are the conflict because pride & arrogance prevent willingness towards correction and needed direction of what we ought to do in order to avoid harm and conflict.
Maybe you need guidelines Geeg. Good luck to you. As for me I don't require any church, religion or anyone else to dictate how I should behave to avoid harm and conflict. Especially when the very institutions who claim to teach us the 'required' behaviour have been responsible for millenia worth of bloodshed and atrocity.
Perhaps you should review your behaviourist sources
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when the very institutions who claim to teach us the 'required' behaviour have been responsible for millenia worth of bloodshed and atrocity.
None in the Catholic Church will disagree that many errors have been made in the history of the Church by individuals in the name of the Church.
Beginning the 3rd millenium, Pope John Paul II asked for forgiveness of all these things and walked into mosques and places Catholics had not visited. There was not a reciprocation, however, by any others to begin the new millenium wanting a more civilized society and working through differences.
I'm not a great scholar on Church history, but I do not fear the history of the Church. It makes me more grounded in its beliefs all the more I learn of it because of the all the corruption it has withstood. Just the 200 plus Popes is a very interesting discussion and how some surely abused their authority, yet in matter of faith and morals, they did not err. No later corrections or deletions on dogmas, doctrines defined by any pope has ever had to be made much to the chagrin of non believers in the Catholic Church.
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KennyMac, who teaches us more about person integration than the Catholic Church? If we do not grasp the distinctiveness of personhood that is body, mind and spirit we are left to be one sided, vulnerable and counterproductive.
A case in point is Peter Singer, bioethics professor of Princeton U. has reasoned sexual relations between (GROSS!!) humans and nonhumans. He fails to understand the dignity that has been given to human nature and his onesided SELF willing distorted corrupt mind inspite of his HUGE educational qualitfications renders him USELESS towards building a Culture of Life.
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Just the 200 plus Popes is a very interesting discussion and how some surely abused their authority, yet in matter of faith and morals, they did not err.
Discussion Community 
how to stop the atrocitious evil actions of the war machines!! Really, I do!!! The best of humanity has not reached a consensus on what's to work, but now you have it, here it is. Who else has got the capacity but the amazing God given talents of "WOmen Power", yes truly, women are the answer!!! Consider carefully the simple but plain truth of the wonder of the feminine nature:
I have no explanation to the inscriptions and symbolisms except that possibly as so often happens in growth and towards maturity, individuals straddle two worlds.