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The healthy man does not torture others - generally it is the tortured who turn into torturers.


~~> Carl Jung [1875 - 1961]

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For the first 194,000 years of humanity's 200,000 year history, humans viewed the world and its living creatures as sacred, as having souls or spirits. A person who caused permanent harm to that was condemned as insane and banished from the tribe. The members of the tribe realized that he was destoying the world of his children's children, an unthinkable and abberant act.


~~> Thom Hartmann [1951]

(taken from my 1999 copy of The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight)

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W cannot cheat on DNA. We cannot get round photosynthesis. We cannot say, "I am not going to give a damn about phytoplankton." All these tiny mechanisms provide the preconditions of our planetary life. To say we do not care is to say in the miost literal sense that "we choose death."


~~> Barbara Ward [1914-1981]
 
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Only when people begin to appreciate the part that phytoplankton play - only then is there hope for humanity.
 
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"Every new baby is a blind desperate vote for survival: people who find themselves unable to register an effective political protest against extermination do so by a biological act."

"War is the supreme drama of a completely mechanized society."

"We have created an industrial order geared to automatism, where feeble-mindedness, native or acquired, is necessary for docile productivity in the factory; and where a pervasive neurosis is the final gift of the meaningless life that issues forth at the other end."

"A day spent without the sight or sound of beauty, the contemplation of mystery, or the search of truth or perfection is a poverty-stricken day; and a succession of such days is fatal to human life."

-- Lewis Mumford (1895-1990)
 
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[...] I operate several Forums for the Internet which provide an income for me and those who help run them, and a meeting place and community for tens of thousends of people around the world. The "place" of these communities is totally virtual: the ADD Forum and the New Age Living Forum, for example, exist only as electronic impulses on the Internet, yet we have members on six continents. We know each other intimately, share our joys and failures, mourn our members who are lost to misfortune or disease, and celebrate those who experience successes in their lives. We've had several people marry after meeting on-line, and one of our closest friends and fellow Sysops, J.B. Whitwell, recently died of lung cancer, causing a globe-spanning spasm of grief in our cyber-world.


~~> Thom Hartmann [1951]

(taken from my 1999 copy of The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight)
 
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I began to question my sanity, which further piqued my curiosity.


~~> Derrick Jensen

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civilization For Enlightenment thinkers, the notion of civilization was inextricably connected with the idea of social progress, namely the triumph of rationality over religion, the decline of local, particular customs and the rise of natural science. It was associated with the growth of the absolutist state and therefore with the reduction of local systems of taxation and local political autonomy, and with greater cultural uniformity within states. In the nineteenth century there was growing disillusionment with progress as urban, industrial, capitalist society was seen as producing alienation and anomie.

-- Entry in the Penguin Dictionary of Sociology
(1984; 5th ed. 2006 by Nicholas Abercrombie, Stephen Hill and Bryan S. Turner)
 
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It is impossible to remain neutral on a moving train.

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The present is the point where time touches eternity


~ CS Lewis
 
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In these circumstances, life hides.

-- Just Coined
 
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Wenn man unter Ewigkeit nicht unendliche Zeitdauer, sondern Unzeitlichkeit versteht, dann lebt der ewig, der in der Gegenwart lebt.

-- Ludwig Wittgenstein
 
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"There was never a genius without a tincture of madness."


~ Aristotle
 
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Wenn man unter Ewigkeit nicht unendliche Zeitdauer, sondern Unzeitlichkeit versteht, dann lebt der ewig, der in der Gegenwart lebt.

-- Ludwig Wittgenstein


Wittgenstein ist viel zu schwierig für mich. Ich brauche Philosophie 101! Smiler


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Sicut cervus desiderat ad fontes aquarum, ita desiderat anima mea ad te, Deus.
~~> Psalm 41 (numbering of the Vulgate) or 42 (numbering of the Hebrew bible)
 
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He was a Christian, and one night spoke of his belief: "Your faith must be strong enough that you can walk the path blindfolded."
Without thinking, I responded, "No. Wherever you put your foot, there is the path. You become the path."


~~> Derrick Jensen

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One had to cram all of this stuff into one's mind, whether one liked it or not. This coercion had such a deterring effect that, after I had passed the final examination, I found the consideration of any scientific problems distasteful to me for an entire year... It is in fact nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction have not entirely strangled the holy spirit of inquiry; for this delicate little plant, aside from stimulation, stands mainly in need of freedom; without this it goes to wrack and ruin without fail. It is a very grave mistake to think that the enjoyment of seeing and searching can be promoted by means of coercion and a sense of duty.

-- Albert Einstein
 
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Education is very important. That's why I never let schooling get in the way of mine.

-- Mark Twain
 
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"Everything is interdependent; and yet the more interdependent we get, the more we seem to split up into little groups that don't like each other and are inclined to fight each other, or at least not to cooperate."

"I'm saying the reason we don't see the source of our problems is that the means by which we try to solve them are the source."

"Thought is creating divisions out of itself and then saying they are there naturally. The divisions between nations are regarded as being 'just there', but obviously they were invented by people."

"I'm saying that thought has the character that it is doing something and saying it isn't doing it."

"Another problem of fragmentation is that thought divides itself from feeling and from the body."

"This is another major feature of thought: thought doesn't know it is doing something and then it struggles against what it is doing."

"So we have this system of thought. Now, I say that this system has a fault in it - a systemic fault. It's not a fault here, there or there, but it is a fault that is throughout the system."

"We could say that for one thing that perhaps there is some kind of perception or intelligence which is deeper, which is able to see this incoherence. The system itself could not see it's incoherence very far, because it would distort it. But I'm suggesting that there is a capacity to see incoherence."

"If you engage in positive thinking to overcome negative thoughts, the negative thoughts are still there acting. That's still incoherence."

"We've said that when we have a thought, it registers in the memory. It registers in the form of a reflex."

"I say it's useful to look at this as a system of reflexes. A reflex just operates, as we've seen in the case of knee-jerk."

"The question is: can you become aware of the reflex character of thought - that it is a reflex, that it is a whole system of reflexes which is constantly capable of being modified, added to, changed? And we could say that as long as the reflexes are free to change then there must be some kind of intelligence or perception, something a bit beyond reflex, which would be able to see whether it's coherent or not. But when it gets conditioned too strongly it may resist that perception; it may not allow it."

"A species that is not coherent either with itself or with its environment doesn't survive."

"Whenever people are finding it hard to get along you will discover that they have different assumptions as to what is necessary or absolutely necessary. If you look at it you can see that that's what they're fighting about."

"The instinct of self-preservation is generally regarded as a very powerful set of reflexes built in by a set of genes, but the notion (thought) of absolute necessity will override that every time."

- David Bohm, Thought As a System


"Thought works by conditioning. It has to get conditioned. You need conditioning to learn a language, to learn how to write, or to do all sorts of things. When the conditioning gets too rigid, though, it won't change when it should." - David Bohm
 
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That God is a disctinct seperate being from us, to whom I must offer worship, whom I must cultivate, humor, please and hope to attain a reward from at the very end of my life. That is not what God is, that is a blasphemy.

~~> Dr. Miceal Ledwith
 
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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world remains and is immortal.


~~> Albert Pine
 
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The book of love is long and boring
And written very long ago
It's full of flowers and heart-shaped boxes
And things we're all too young to know


~~> Peter Gabriel
 
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If a man comes to the door of poetry untouched by the madness of the Muses, believing that technique alone will make him a good poet, he and his sane compositions never reach perfection, but are utterly eclipsed by the performances of the inspired madman.


~ Socrates in Phaedrus


Because people with no hopes are easy to control ~ The Neverending Story
 
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Oh, and this one is actually mine -- and I live by it on many levels.

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If Horton hears a Who -- who hears Horton?


My question is fractal AND it also emphasizes society's need to "hear" and support those who can hear the Whos, (even the smallest of the small) and be open to the possiblity there are more to specks than meet the eye. Big Grin

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Thank you Theodore for teaching me this invaluable life lesson.


Because people with no hopes are easy to control ~ The Neverending Story
 
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We have a 24-hour hotline for reporting incidences


~ Dr. Phil
 
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