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One of our employees has an ex boyfriend that is getting out of jail next week.
He has an attitude problem.
My wife asked me if I had an inside the pants holster for a pistol. I said I'd considered buying one but have never gotten around to it. Hip holsters had always worked fine.
She is concerned about Mr. Unhappy coming to our office.

I told her I'd stop by the gunshop and pick up a Galco. (I guess the 9mm in my truck and the .357 in my desk is not close enough)
With a new holster must come a new pistol I figure. It only makes sense.
Sorta had my eye on a hammerless 2" stainless Smith anyways. Perfect carry gun and comfy under the belt.

For 19 years, my wife has never understood why I would have 75+ guns and God knows how much money invested in the worlds greatest hobby. In leaner times, it was an issue. She was smart enough to always mind the prime directive of happy marraige though. (don't mess with my firearms)

Today is a great day.
She has implied that a new revolver must grace our family and I will fulfill her wishes.


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"A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user."

Theodore Roosevelt, 1913

 
Posts: 2404 | Location: Redmond WA | Registered: 04 September 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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WOW... 75 guns... Damn.

You got me beat, you even have my buddy who actually shoots religiously beat, he's only somewhere in the forties. Granted he swifted form quanity to quality a couple years ago when he got his job at Luepold. He actually graces the Luepold catolog with his toys.

Let me know if you need an inside track on Scopes and Silencers. He is a class 3 manufacturer also.


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Posts: 7253 | Location: PORTLAND | Registered: 07 November 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I do need a connection at Leupold.
My old inside guy is no longer.
I am upgrading as we speak. Nightforce and USO are great, but Leupold is alot of scope for the price. Mark 4's are one of my favorites.

I have a trust set up to purchase supressors. Legal in WA state as long as you don't shoot through them. Silly ass laws.
I've been buying from an Idaho manufacturer but I'm definately interested in what your friend has. We should talk.

The same thought has crossed my mind about quantities. I'm zeroing in on what I really like to shoot, even though that varies from week to week. Might be time to move a few.

For today, my issue is Smith titanium .38 or 2" Rugar .357. The Rugar is much more hand size for me and would be a better shooter + allows for .357, but the Smith is very small and light. Good pocket rocket.
Decisions decisions.


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Toconnor (at) leupold (dot) com

His name is Tim. Head of Tech Service And I think still Custom Shop. Tell him Brian Sent you. The boy is a sink hole of knowledge and guns. Tell him you want his prized Quigly gun. Same gun the used in Quigly down under.


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I'm thinking about getting a gun. We have a shotgun, but we don't use it. I would if it ever came down to hunting for food, you know if all hell breaks loose and society crumbles type of thing. But, I think I need something small and light that I can carry on my person, or handle in a hurry if an intruder comes into my home. What type of gun should I be looking for? What's the best way to pick out a gun? Slabmaster, you probably know this: what places in north king or south snohomish county can I go to and try out (actually shoot) different types?


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Lisa said:
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I'm thinking about getting a gun. We have a shotgun, but we don't use it. I would if it ever came down to hunting for food, you know if all hell breaks loose and society crumbles type of thing. But, I think I need something small and light that I can carry on my person, or handle in a hurry if an intruder comes into my home. What type of gun should I be looking for? What's the best way to pick out a gun? Slabmaster, you probably know this: what places in north king or south snohomish county can I go to and try out (actually shoot) different types?


Slab, I'm with Lisa. I don't own any firearms, but I'm thinking of getting a light weapon to carry for security. There is lots of cash at my business, which attracts creeps who might endanger employees.

Suggestions?
 
Posts: 1807 | Location: West Michigan | Registered: 23 June 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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If you are thinking about getting a handgun for protection think about the environment. Are you going to carry it? If so what type of dress is prevelant?

If you can wear a sportcoat you can carry a much more effective weapon than if you work as a lifeguard and wear a Speedo.

Buy something you want to practice with. A alloy framed, 2 inch, .357 is an uncomfortable gun to shot. Even if you load it with .38s.

Don't go with a mini .25 Auto or .22 either unless you absolutely need something that small.

And you need to practice. Really

Get some instruction. If you're a beginner or even if you're experienced.

I have some very strong opinions (surprised?) about appropriate handguns. I was an NRA instructor for a long time but am no longer current. Gave up my membership long ago.

I'm available to talk guns and gun safety with anybody that's interested. Gratis

Oh yes, I am a liberal/progressive gun owner.
 
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http://www.packing.org/



The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
Winston Churchill
 
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Lisa,

I just bought a Smith & Wesson 2" .38 special "Airweight".
It's about the size of my Nextel phone.
.38 is enough to educate malcontents that the decisions they make will have an impact on their life.
Hammerless design, 5 shot, small, light, enough punch, anyone could point and shoot, accurate out to 25 yards or so.

I've been a life member of Wades Eastside guns for decades. They have a full blown range and rental guns. For a few bucks, you can shoot whatever you like. The instruction classes are very good as well. I am sending my wife for a refresher along with 3-4 women from work.
The have "women only" classes so you don't have to listen to guys BS about what they know (or don't know).
Continental sportsman is another one further north. I don't know much about them.
I reccomend Wades because I know all of the principles very well and have experience there.

A good no-lethal option for uninvited guests is a grizzly bear "fogger" pepper spray. An effective one is half the size of a fire extinguisher and covers out to 25 feet.

With any tool, I strongly urge education and practice practice practice.


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"A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user."

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Originally posted by M'aiq:
A alloy framed, 2 inch, .357 is an uncomfortable gun to shot. Even if you load it with .38s.



Opinions vary.

My wife shoots a 2" .38 and she is small in stature. I shoot a .357 competitively and practice with .38's constantly because there is very little felt recoil.
For a beginning shooter, I steer towards light, easy, non complicated, enough power to make a difference, point-shoot-call 911 type of weapons.


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"A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user."

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Originally posted by PeeWee Returns:

Slab, I'm with Lisa. I don't own any firearms, but I'm thinking of getting a light weapon to carry for security. There is lots of cash at my business, which attracts creeps who might endanger employees.

Suggestions?


Revolver in .38/357.
Practice.

Go to a good range and shoot several types, lengths. See what fits well and is comfortable.
After a short while, you'll realize that you must have more. Explore semi-autos at that time and become proficient with them.

Knowing that Michigan is the murder capital of the world, there should be incentive to shoot well. No sense letting the criminals get all of the practice.


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Where to put it...


Blaise Pascal
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.
Pensees

 
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Originally posted by Loganthor:
Toconnor (at) leupold (dot) com

His name is Tim. Head of Tech Service And I think still Custom Shop. Tell him Brian Sent you. The boy is a sink hole of knowledge and guns. Tell him you want his prized Quigly gun. Same gun the used in Quigly down under.


You sir are a prince.
Thankyou thankyou.
This could open a can of worms that my wife will vaporlock over.

I get to Portland every couple 3 months. I'll buy.


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"A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user."

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Lisa, I liked Adventure Sports at 23329 Highway 99 in Edmonds. I bought a .40 Beretta 92FS from them a few years ago. Small place but knowledgeable and friendly staff when I was there.

For small and lightweight semi-autos that pack a punch I've always liked Glocks. The Glock 26 is very small - shorter than many snub nosed revolvers and only a bit heavier - and seems like a good concealed carry option. Plus you get at least 10 rounds. Guys like Slab probably don't need that many, but it never hurts.
 
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My god Slab, 75 guns? You sound like a buddy I had in high school. I'd go over to his house and in his room he probably had no less than a dozen guns at any one time, scads of bullets strewn around the place, you'd think he was shipping out to Beirut. We had some good times back in those days.
 
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get to Portland every couple 3 months. I'll buy.

That's pretty cool, because I'm always drinkin.


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I grew up with gunsmiths/collectors.
We always had a "gun room" where all firearm special triple secrets were passed down from father to son.
I have the same now although my daughter is more interested than my son.

It's a great hobby that teaches focus, accuracy, accountability, respect, and budgeting of resources.
Further depth involves reloading, ballistics, attention to detail, and appreciation for fine equipment.
75+/- firearms is the current. It fluctuates.
Over the years I've had well over 100 at some times and as little as 30 at others. It depends on what interests me at the time.
I've got a guy looking today at some of the modern ones as I am running out of room. Several hunting rifles and a few modern pistols are up for grabs.
The 1803 - 1883 years are not for sale. The WW1 & WW2 collections are not for sale.

I'd like to get a Howitzer.
Moving it around would be a pain though.


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I grew up in a gun culture, although I've never been into it to the same extent as many of my friends. When I was 16 I bought a Springfield 1911 A1 from a guy selling over the radio. Needless to say, things were a lot different then.

I'm from Alaska, my wife is from New York, so there's a real culture clash over this issue, though on a recent trip back to my hometown I did get her to go shooting and try the Beretta which was a major feat. When I pulled the trigger of my .30-06 however I thought I was going to have to pull her out of a tree.

Last year I confronted a crackhead who was prowling cars in Belltown. The following week someone got stabbed at a public health center a block from where I was working at the time. Then the Jewish Federation shooting happened 2 blocks away. My wife got very concerned and urged me to carry something. I have a permit but I still haven't purchased anything small enough to carry around comfortably.
 
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I was told by my Gun Guru that for his lady:

Here

quote:
Specifications

Caliber: .38 S&W Special +P
Capacity: 5 Rounds
Barrel Length: 1-7/8"
Front Sight: Serrated Ramp
Rear Sight: Fixed Notch
Firing System: N/A
Grip: Combat Dymondwood® Grip
Trigger: .312" Smooth Target
Hammer: .240" Semi-Target
External Safety: N/A
Frame: Small
Finish: Blue
Overall length: 6-3/16"
Material: Carbon Steel
Weight Empty: 20 ounces



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