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The grandparents of a 12-year-old student who says she was forced to watch the R-rated, gay-themed movie Brokeback Mountain at school have filed a lawsuit against the Chicago Board of Education, The Chicago Sun-Times reported.

ooooooo someone is going to be in trouble. Is this an example of Pro Gay Liberal propaganda brainwashing the youth.

This one is just too much.

Pro Gay
Anti School
Anti Parent
Pro "R" rated Porn movie (granted I haven't seen it)


SOOOOO many angles to choose from.

"Focus on the Family"?? Hardly a factual website. I would suspect the story is exaggeration hysteria like all their others. If it IS true as reported, that is pretty disgusting and I agree with claims of student abuse.

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Is this an example of Pro Gay Liberal propaganda brainwashing the youth.

NO, if the story is true, it's an example of one substitute teacher showing extremely poor judgment. The movie is rated R for a reason. So far, there is no news about this except for the FOF and Sun Times article. Instead of buying into conspiracy theories, I think I'll wait to get the whole story. Admittedly right now, I'm having a hard time believing that the school principal or the school district knew anything about this. I'm also having a hard time believing that the twelve year old is suffering $500,000 worth of psychological damage *if* she watched the film.

btw, it's not porn Loganthor, it's rated R because of the "sensitive" subject and in one scene, a little peek-a-boo at a guys butt.

Yes, does not sound good, but does it compare to scaring the xxxx out of kids...
Tennessee teachers stage fake gunman attack

Well I hope at least there is some eco-psychologist around.

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Hardly a factual website

Fine..... it was just the first up.

Root story.
Family of girl, 12, sues after 'Brokeback' shown in class

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there is no news about this except for the FOF and Sun Times article.

story is only 2 days old. obviously will spread faster in the religious community.

Here is Gay.com take on the story

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btw, it's not porn Loganthor, it's rated R because of the "sensitive" subject and in one scene, a little peek-a-boo at a guys butt

yuck!!!! guy butt's. I would much prefer them showing "Girls Gone Wild" to the 8th grade class.

I would prefer that they stick to teaching reading writing and the sciences.

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I would prefer that they stick to teaching reading writing and the sciences.

That would be a remarkablely novel approach to education.

The film seems inappropriate for that age group. That's why it has an "R" rating.

Just what is the $500,000 damage that took place?

Could she have closed her eyes or plugged her ears? That's what my young grand neice does in a spooky movie.
Taken a nap? (I sometimes do that during a movie )

Retired Monk

"Ideologies are a disease"

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Just what is the $500,000 damage that took place?

Not the point. If the penalty isn't severe enough, it won't be taken seriously.

The attorney probably took it on a contingency and will get most of it anyway.

In Europe, Brokeback Mountain is rated suitable for viewers from the age of 12 on. It's also been a discussion in Europe that the movie was too controversial for the US. Actually, the fact that it's centered around a homosexual relationship is not the main issue of the movie. It all revolves around a classic love story, and any sensitive person would be touched by the depth and intensity of certain scenes. The Oscar for 'Best Movie' went to "Crash" which in every scene focuses in an overly dramatic sense on racism, which makes that movie mediocre in relation to Brokebrack Mountain.

For homophobes here, or anywhere, there are more hetero sex scenes in Brokeback Mountain then there are homosexual ones.

If you see the kind of junk kids get to see on regular news, MTV and even computer games it sounds absolutely ridiculous to me that the US would make such as issue about this movie. Homosexuality is inapropriate? Gimme a break.

Bravo, ariel23.

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For homophobes here, or anywhere, there are more hetero sex scenes in Brokeback Mountain then there are homosexual ones.

Thanks for yet another reason it should have never been shown in a school setting. hetero sex scenes.

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If you see the kind of junk kids get to see on regular news, MTV and even computer games it sounds absolutely ridiculous to me that the US would make such as issue about this movie.

Golly wouldn't that not depend on your parenting style and not the whims of some crazy ass sub teacher.

Can you tell me the educational benefits gained by having 12 years olds watch the movie, Math, reading, science, Any benefit then merely social engineering propaganda. Sorry Europe likes it.. We all want to be like Europe.

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Thanks for yet another reason it should have never been shown in a school setting. hetero sex scenes.

All the "'sex' scenes" were edited out in the US-version.

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Sorry Europe likes it.. We all want to be like Europe.

After all, the US is one big shining beacon of hope, grace and equanimity.

I'm gonna both agree and disagree with most of you.

Let's break this down: I agree that films such as this are culturally important, and that current film ratings regulations are sometimes out of whack with the true American zeitgeist, probably because of a puritanical legacy we have here.

BUT....whether those ratings and regs are right or wrong, they are currently the ratings and regs. 12 year olds should not be shown any R-rated movie first of all without getting prior written paretnal consent (that's actually law), and second without a little review of the necessity of the showing.

If people, and primarily the parents and professional educators in a given district, think a certain film is important and should be shown, then they should do consent forms, or work to change the ratings regs.

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BUT....whether those ratings and regs are right or wrong, they are currently the ratings and regs. 12 year olds should not be shown any R-rated movie first of all without getting prior written paretnal consent (that's actually law), and second without a little review of the necessity of the showing.

I agree. Parents should be in charge of their childrens exposure to any sexual material. It's parental responsibility.

Secondarily, someone said on a message board once that the Lord of the Rings by Tolkein was literature and Harry Potter was pop culture. I agree with that assesment. Literature has a place in the public school system, pop culture doesn't in my opinion. Brokeback and nearly everything that comes from Hollywood is pop culture.

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Originally posted by Sawdust:
Brokeback and nearly everything that comes from Hollywood is pop culture.

Would "An inconvenient opinion" be included?

Especially an Inconvenient Opinion.

I actually watched a link that Bamboo posted with Al Gore doing a little stand up and then going into psycobabble about Hybrids that are environmentally unfriendly and carbon credits which are a scam. The part I really liked was when he talked about flying to Africa in the G5 to talk to a group about global warming. What a guy.

Yup, Al Gore is a great guy. Has done amazing work educating the masses about the environmental calamities we may face, but also how we can work together to prevent them.

Regarding literature versus pop culture, that's not a decision to be made lightly. Movies or clips thereof have been shown in school for a long time. Scenes from "A Man for All Seasons", "Glory", "Saving Private Ryan", "Henry V", and many others have been used to add a dynamic aspect onto rote reading and lecturing.

Again a but....I don't know that Brokeback Mountain was necessarily appropriate for 12 year olds. A college course on sexuality? Sure. A course on social issues in media? Sure. Any given class in about 7th grade? Maybe not.

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Again a but....I don't know that Brokeback Mountain was necessarily appropriate for 12 year olds.

here is a thought, Boogie Nights for a junior high social sudies class.

Perhaps "Debbie does Dallas" for Texas high school geography classes? Ha ha.

Do they even teach geography anymore in high schools? Civics classes are slowly dying off, I know that.