Yet another phony intellectual badass seems to think that himself and a few select others (including myself) need to be banned from this forum for the greater good.

So, what are the perfect characteristics of a perfect forum from your POV?

We are all unique, just like everyone else.

The internet is open to the public, just like the airwaves. Some people like to stick their fingers in their ears and hum really loud so they don't have to hear what they don't agree with. I think it's foolish.

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The reason I ask, is I hear endlessly about the “Good old Days” and what were those dynamics? I have visited hundreds of forums and have found none that have this level of activity and spread of ideological differences. Overall this forum is surprisingly civil all things considered.

Chris for whatever his reasons, thinks I and others need to be banned. While I would certainly question what bur resides up Chris ass for this forum, Thom, everyone he doesn’t like and why he even bothers logging in here.

While I view some of my counterparts here as severely lacking any coherent backing of their beliefs, I think my existence here provides the necessary balance and challenge to those beliefs. I can not imagine even wanting an environment that all we did was sit around and agreed on every topic and every issue and the only contention between people was not whether or not Bush was an ass, but to what degree Bush is an ass.

So, ironic that a Con was the first to post to this thread, I am really interested in progressive POV on this forum.

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Free Slabmaster

WOW.. Miles finally got one right

I was pretty disappoined when Chris called Slabmaster a "piece of shit". After people talk like that, there is no hope of a reasonable discussion.

perfect characteristics of a perfect forum.



I don't believe there is such a thing. As was posted, we are all unique.

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I was pretty disappoined when Chris called Slabmaster a "piece of shit". After people talk like that, there is no hope of a reasonable discussion.

I saw that and I have to wonder what his endgame was. He talks about the "good old days" and I have to wonder if this is how they dealt in those days.

I think you’re wrong that reasonable debate is without hope even after being attacked. The only reactions you can control are your own. If your not bothered by it and see it for what it really is, it makes continuing much easier.

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I don't believe there is such a thing. As was posted, we are all unique.

Fair enough..

But Thom site is markedly different from Democratic underground or Randi Rhodes forum. Why is that? Is there in fact a better forum then Thoms?

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Is there in fact a better forum then Thoms?

I haven't found any.

Radically different from what I read.
The same point of view rehashed and never challenged does nothing to stretch our knowledge.
In my life, I have learned more from those that have presented a foreign POV.
Other progressive sites have closed that door and remain stagnant viewing people as enemies.

I think everyone has a different idea of what the perfect message board would be, just as different as the people here.

It is a very odd forum, when you think about it, being able to interact daily, with other people from all over the country (and suppose world to a lesser extent).

I wish I could say I have learned anything from the conservative view, other than I find it odd, and difficult to understand how people can think in such a restrictive manner, but to each his/her own. I have learned a few economic terms from Ron (although I don't know that I will ever need to use them).

What's with the, 'Free Slabmaster', he hasn't been banned, has he?

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I think everyone has a different idea of what the perfect message board would be, just as different as the people here.

Really? I would not have guessed, could be why I framed it "Your POV"

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I wish I could say I have learned anything from the conservative view, other than I find it odd, and difficult to understand how people can think in such a restrictive manner, but to each his/her own.

What is learned from opposing view points is entirely up to you and you alone. Certainly I do not learn that much from reading arguments opposing mine as much as I learn how to articulate and lay my arguments out. What I generally hope to gain is better perspective on the complete issue, with the off chance I might be persuaded from my original stance a few degrees. Something that generally can not be achieved solo.

If you have the notion that your ideas alone will be able to persuade a person to switch sides, you end up like Captain. Frustrated, depressed and gone.

Correct.

We can make a better arguments by testing our own belief system when challenged. Will it stand?
Who knows, maybe our beliefs need evaluation.
I have changed my opinions and beliefs on occasion due to a counter points of view that when examined, made more sense than my own.

I hope to keep an open mind.

Loganthor,

You crack me up.

Kate,

I guess I am not the only one.

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Loganthor,

You crack me up.

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humor is the path of least resistance
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'HUMOR IS THE PATH TO UNIVERSAL WISDOM'

I see.

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I see.

Did you care to opine upon the topic?

Duh. I think I started a thread on the topic, just before you started yours. lol

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Duh. I think I started a thread on the topic, just before you started yours. lol

I was unaware. Link it.

lol

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lol

Or, just laugh, whichever you prefer.

should I ASSume "lol" is YOUR POV of this forum or just this thread.

Kate,

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Originally posted by --Kate:
Loganthor,

You crack me up.

Loganthor,

Let me ass you a question: what in Slabmaster's 'final solution' did you feel was in any way a form of acceptable discourse, paying special attention to the fact that after the warning that if anybody would ever say anything like that again they would get booted, ol' Faithful there decided that 'that don't concern me' and just kept right on going?

Cat asked for it (I'm assuming that this is why he got banned; don't know for sure, of course.) And THAT, incidentally, is the real meaning of 'karma'.

Don't worry, though, I'm sure he'll be allowed to return, if he asks nicely (hm. oh, well.) All anybody asked him was please do not propose any genocide, thank you very much. That', as far as I'm concerned, is not an unreasonable request, I'm sure that if he tries real hard, he'll be able to live by that one little guideline.

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Don't worry, though, I'm sure he'll be allowed to return, if he asks nicely (hm. oh, well.) All anybody asked him was please do not propose any genocide, thank you very much. That', as far as I'm concerned, is not an unreasonable request, I'm sure that if he tries real hard, he'll be able to live by that one little guideline.

Why would anyone ask to return on the condition that they don't speak their mind? Did Slab appear to you to be the kind of person who would compromise?

Interesting post Loki, seems to be a classic derailment post of my thread. We all know what that means.

I do not feel qualified at the moment to comment on Slabmaster since I do not know (YET) the who, what, why or when or the most important Context to which his statements were construed. (cough, cough, waiting). If he was in fact removed for advocating genocide. Then I would think that would be an extremely piss poor reason. I myself can think of several million people in this world we can do without if I was King of the world. I find nothing wrong with thinking there are several countries in this world we could do without. Because in the end, there is nothing wrong with thinking it, regardless of offending your moral sensibilities, Unlike the numerous comments advocating the death or torture of the President of the United States, Which IS a felony crime.

I would have to agree with Sawdust, Unlikely Slab will change his interaction. I was not required to pledge or promise changes in order to be re-instated, to my knowledge neither have Ron or Ren.

Gee Kate I was really hoping you would choose to participate in this thread, I have been saving a compliment for you for another facet of this thread.

Is abiding by a specific rule of thought mandatory here?